Re: [FRIAM] Peirce's "What Pragmatism is."

2018-03-27 Thread Eric Charles
Glen, because I like control-loop metaphors for behavior, and think we are very close on that issue, the more interesting question, to me, is: "Why would we claim what Peirce claims in "What is Pragmatism?", that there must be some things without a control loop at all?" The answer is, I think, tha

Re: [FRIAM] Peirce's "What Pragmatism is."

2018-03-27 Thread ∄ uǝʃƃ
Interesting. You've flipped my rhetoric completely around and suggested the opposite of what I posited, and what I think is the only reasonable inference we can take from Peirce's position. I posited that the things we *believe* have loose (or no) control loops, whereas things with tight contr

[FRIAM] The Itch Nobody Can Scratch

2018-03-27 Thread uǝlƃ ☣
Speaking of our need to take "gradations of certainty" seriously: The Itch Nobody Can Scratch https://medium.com/matter/the-itch-nobody-can-scratch-4d980e3ac519 I got itchy reading it! -- ☣ uǝlƃ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group lis

Re: [FRIAM] Peirce's "What Pragmatism is."

2018-03-27 Thread Eric Charles
Glen, Ah! It seems to me you are talking about the thing believed, while I am talking about the thing itself... could that be what is happening? You say that aether theory had a loose control loop when believed, but now has a strong control loop when it is doubted. That would make sense to me if y