Re: [FRIAM] Climate Change

I'm also a big fan of James Lovelock. Interesting that he changed his views on climate change dramatically. I refer to an interview The Guardian newspaper had with him recently ( www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/sep/30/james-lovelock-interview-by-end-of-century-robots-will-have-taken-over). I q

Re: [FRIAM] Climate Change

Glen, I'd like to comment on your comment a few posts earlier: *"*That* is why I think focusing on the workflows (modeling) is important. Those of us who distrust the experts bear the burden of proof. Hence, we have to really dig in and find the flaw in the experts' thinking. To do otherwise

Re: [FRIAM] Climate Change

Pieter, Some months back, at the Friday Meeting of the FRIAM Mother Church at St. Johns, we had a long discussion about the degree to which ANY of us ever made judgements in such matters on the basis of EVIDENCE. I think, just for fun, we spent some time trying to PROVE to one another, on

Re: [FRIAM] Climate Change

Nick, *What are the properties of GroupThought that is likely to survive experience into the deep future?* Philip Tetlock has done excellent work answering exactly that question. His view is simply that you can test and develop the ability of individuals and groups to increase the quality of thei

Re: [FRIAM] Climate Change

Isn’t the point NOT that some of us think independently and some of us are victims of Groupthink, but rather that some groups think better than others?> Like some groups advance goals like prudence and others, avarice. Marcus From: Friam on behalf of Nick Th

Re: [FRIAM] Climate Change

Pieter, Seeing my question, out in the open, away from the underbrush of my other words, I am inclined to edit it: What are the properties of good GroupThought: i.e., Group Thought that is likely to survive experience into the deep future? Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Em

Re: [FRIAM] Climate Change

In my most humble opinion: 1) it evolves in real-time, not only when new data is received but when new perspectives are offered. No more of this waiting for the old generation to die before we can change our minds crap. 2) It privileges no perspective(s), tool(s), or mode(s) of thinking. No

Re: [FRIAM] Climate Change

Hi, Dave, Hey, thanks for taking the question seriously. Please see “larding”. I am still hoping to see you before you leave. I might do coffee early Tuesday afternoon. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University

Re: [FRIAM] Climate Change

Nick, Referring to your *What are the properties of good GroupThought: i.e., Group Thought that is likely to survive experience into the deep future?* How does one define the "good" in "good GroupThought"? It obviously depends on the context. I want to refrain, for now, it could be part of ano