[FRIAM] Downward causation

Of interest, also the whole issue... http://rsta.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/375/2109/20160338 C FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailma

Re: [FRIAM] Postmodernism for Rationalists

Glen ☣- A Postmodernist trying to Rationalize Postmodernism to Rationalists? Actually I found it somewhat interesting...  and was (nicely?) put off by the formatting... the ragged use of bullet points... a "bulleted list of one" seems very symbolic of my caricature of PoMo aesthetic. As for

Re: [FRIAM] Postmodernism for Rationalists

In my experience, growing up in n the Bay Area, Beatniks had come and gone before the Hippies emerged. Frank Frank Wimberly Phone (505) 670-9918 On Nov 18, 2017 11:15 AM, "Steven A Smith" wrote: > Glen ☣- > > A Postmodernist trying to Rationalize Postmodernism to Rationalists? > > Actually I f

Re: [FRIAM] Postmodernism for Rationalists

I believe Frank is generally right. However,when I was in college in the late sixties hippies were in full bloom but Maynard G Krebs (Adventures of Dobie Gillis) was a TV icon and Lord Buckley was on the pop radio. dave west On Sat, Nov 18, 2017, at 05:39 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote: > In my experi

Re: [FRIAM] Postmodernism for Rationalists

This stimulated a memory. When I was a sophomore at Carnegie Mellon one of my classmates, FM, was one of the most enthusiastic fraternity boys ever. I transferred to Berkeley that year. When I returned to CMU as a graduate student 5 years later he was also a grad student and a florid Hippie. I r

Re: [FRIAM] Downward causation

Nice. -- rec -- On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Carl Tollander wrote: > Of interest, also the whole issue... http://rsta. > royalsocietypublishing.org/content/375/2109/20160338 > > C > > > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv

Re: [FRIAM] Postmodernism for Rationalists

Sorry. As usual I am playing catch up in this argument. What, for instance, is a cargo cult ideology? Praying to whatever might cause useful stuff to fall out of the sky? And, what is the relation between PoMo and Existentialism? I take existentialism to be the doctrine that all me

Re: [FRIAM] Postmodernism for Rationalists

Nick - What, for instance, is a cargo cult ideology?  Praying to whatever might cause useful stuff to fall out of the sky? I tend to think of Cargo Cult thinking as (naively) conflating form with function, of invoking the "form" of something with the hope/assumption that the function will fo

Re: [FRIAM] Downward causation

Hi, Roger, Can you say what you thought was “nice” about it. (As you know, it makes me nervous to disagree with you about stuff). I struggled with the article. I thought at one point she confused aggregate with emergent properties. Emergent properties are properties of the whole that are

Re: [FRIAM] Postmodernism for Rationalists

Ah, Steve. I might have known that Feynman would have something to do with it. Wikipedia, ob cit: The metaphorical use of "cargo cult" was popularized by physicist Richard Feynman at a 1974 Caltech c

Re: [FRIAM] Postmodernism for Rationalists

Steve writes: < I was surprised to find that there was a style of computer programming named after this term as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult_programming > Cargo cult programming is like the link below, starting at 4:20