Re: [FRIAM] [Causality in Complex Systems] Re: Economy vs. ecology, er

2010-11-03 Thread Russ Abbott
Beth, would you mind giving some examples that are more concrete and explain a bit how they work. I'm not as familiar with the biology as you are. When I say our economy is demand driven, that's not the same as saying that there are drivers that affect it. Supply is a driver. That's a completely d

[FRIAM] Review: Atlas of Science, Visualizing What We Know

2010-11-03 Thread Tom Johnson
Interesting graphic here: http://flowingdata.com/2010/11/03/review-atlas-of-science-visualizing-what-we-know/ --tom johnson FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives,

[FRIAM] Emergence paper

2010-11-03 Thread Russ Abbott
My short paper, "Abstract Data Types and Constructive Emergence," has finally appeared in the *Newsletter on Philosophy and Computing* of the American Philosophical Association (Spring 2010 edition, pp 48-56). Among other things,

Re: [FRIAM] Emergence paper

2010-11-03 Thread Jochen Fromm
Congratulations. The core idea of this paper seems to be that we can understand emergence as the realization of an abstract data type. So far so good, a glider in the Game of Life can be considered as an implementation or realization of the abstract data type glider, at least the form. Is it possi

Re: [FRIAM] Emergence paper

2010-11-03 Thread Russ Abbott
Jochen, Do you really think it would have been published if it could be dismissed as easily as you suggest? * -- Russ Abbott _* * Professor, Computer Science California State University, Los Angeles Google voice: 424-235-5752 (424-cell-rja) blog:

Re: [FRIAM] Emergence paper

2010-11-03 Thread Jochen Fromm
Russ, If a paper contains mainly definitions, arguments, metaphors, categorizations, or even opinions, then it useful to ask if they are useful, consistent and complete. A calculation or a proof can be wrong and easily dismissed, but a definition or a metaphor is harder to dismiss. Opinions diffe