Re: [FRIAM] New Topic: Science-based Fundamentalism

Owen Very well said, Steve.  I probably should have been a bit more clear about my interest in the close vote. Actually, I think you were clear.  I think it was the rest of us that took one implication of your question and ran all over the place with it.  That is why I felt compelled to

Re: [FRIAM] New Topic: Science-based Fundamentalism

Very well said, Owen. ;-} As the "assumer" who suggested that you had an unBubba-fied background, I submit my heartfelt apologies. Now, back to your original question: "Why is this race so close?", my opinion is that religion is the major factor. And yes, I correlate religion with a lack of int

[FRIAM] Latest JASSS

Latest issue of JASSS out and it's huge. ABM stuff by the bucket load as usual: http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk Robert FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscr

[FRIAM] Fundamentalist-based Republicanism

Here's one for the Republicans (or closet Republicans) on the list: http://www.prayerforceone.com/pray_in_whitehouse_login.asp Y'all do remember these, don't you? I wonder how many of these Bush supporters

[FRIAM] Why Model?

As Robert mentioned, JASSS is out. Here's one likely to be of general interest: Why Model? http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/11/4/12.html Nick: a reasonable discussion of prediction lies therein. -- Owen FRIAM Applied Complexit

Re: [FRIAM] Election: Why So Close

Well, if this thread isn't out of steam, there is a clear majority of humans who prefer magical thinking... and imagine the general cause of natural phenomenon is whether their "we" is in control or not. You guys too, don't even acknowledge that there is a physical world, continually speaking of

Re: [FRIAM] Why Model?

Is Epstein really praising modeling, or is he really praising (clear/scientific) thinking, which he seems to identify with modeling. He cites scientific theories (Maxwell's equations, the Lotka-Volterra ecosystem model, Hooke's Law, the Kermack-McKendrick epidemic equations) as successful models.

Re: [FRIAM] Why Model?

> [...] Or does it answer the question "Why think?" > > -- Russ Abbott Which sort of brings us back on point to one of the other threads that has been volleyed back and forth on this list since last Friday... Why think, when there is dogma to save you the bother? -- Doug Roberts, RTI Internat

[FRIAM] A Ray of Sunshine

For those of us not in the Fundamentalist Chri^B^B^B^B^B^B^B^B^B^B^B^B^B^B^B^B^B^B Republican party. http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2008/11/predictions-ele.html -- Doug Roberts, RTI International [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 505-455-7333 - Office 505-670-8195 - Cell

Re: [FRIAM] Why Model?

I looked up the Feynman referenceand extracted the following paragraphs in praise of doubt. They don't have much to do with modeling, but they make a good point for both science--and especially politics. We scientists … take it for granted that it is per

Re: [FRIAM] Why Model?

Good detective work, Russ. I rather think that we scientists have fallen down on the job of embracing and promoting doubt, at least with regards to religion's place in politics and science. May I remind you: our Republican Vice Presidential candidate is a *Creationist* who believes that the ear

[FRIAM] XO laptop on Fedora 10 GNU/Linux

Hi, In case anyone is still interested in XO/OLPC software development, I've been using the Fedora 10 GNU/Linux system betas and noticed that it is now just a matter of running "yum install sugar" to get the XO environment as an option at the bottom of the login screen (instead of GNOME).

Re: [FRIAM] Ruth Charney on Modeling with Cubes

Pete received the original presentaion PDF from Ruth Charney. It's now uploaded here for those interested: http://www.redfish.com/friam/Charney_MAA10-08.pdf Thanks, Pete! -Steve On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 3:47 PM, peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes great stuff BUT sad that the you tube posting

Re: [FRIAM] Why Model?

Douglas Roberts wrote: Why think, when there is dogma to save you the bother? A quick check of Wikipedia might suggest an explanation.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indoctrination "Indoctrination is the process of inculcating ideas, attitudes, cognitive strategies or a professional methodolog

Re: [FRIAM] Why Model?

I prefer the dictionary definition: Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)- Cite This Source- Share This in·doc·tri·nat

Re: [FRIAM] Why Model?

Hmmm anyone else troubled by the fact that both definitions of indoctrination seem to be wholly applicable to the Epstein piece? Robert On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Douglas Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > I prefer the dictionary definition: > > Dictionary.com Unabridged (v > 1.1)

Re: [FRIAM] Fundamentalist-based Republicanism

On Nov 2, 2008, at 12:35 PM, Douglas Roberts wrote: How many people on this list *don't* think that religion has been , and continues to be a (the?) major factor in American politics? Doug, I really do feel your pain. But cut us a bit of slack, OK? Fundamentalism is certainly an issue, bu

Re: [FRIAM] Science, religion, and doubt

I've continued the thread relating science, religion, and doubt on my blog. I make an argument that religion has valid grounds to promote science as a religious good. (Too bad it doesn't.) If it did, it would have an opp