Re: [FRIAM] emergent mind - ai news by ai

2023-03-30 Thread Steve Smith
DaveW-rote: Steve Smith's use of the phrase "arms race" reminded me of John Brunner's /Shockwave Rider /and its underlying premise of the dangers of constant change, 'first the legs race, then the arms race, then the brain race'. (Brunner was inspired by Tofler's book, /Futu

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2023-03-30 Thread glen
Well, we are doing quite a bit of this ... not enough, of course. And we have this whole new postmodern problem of both right- and left-wingers attacking our education system whenever and wherever they can. (What is education if not a technology to augment human intelligence?) But it's not in t

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2023-03-30 Thread Prof David West
Steve Smith's use of the phrase "arms race" reminded me of John Brunner's *Shockwave Rider *and its underlying premise of the dangers of constant change, 'first the legs race, then the arms race, then the brain race'. (Brunner was inspired by Tofler's book, *Future Shock*.) The book also poses

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2023-03-30 Thread glen
Right. I put "agree" in scare quotes because I mean it more in terms of "in line with", "alongside", affine to, etc. What should happen, IMNSHO, is equivalent attention should be paid to mechanism-based machine learning, equivalent to the attention that prediction is getting. You know, heuristic

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2023-03-30 Thread Steve Smith
/GePR/ - Well, I "agree" with the open letter, for different reasons than Steve. Just yesterday, a colleague (who should know better) made a similar assertion to Nick's (and mine, and maybe Marcus' etc.) that *we* may be in the same category as a transformer decoder assembly. The context was

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2023-03-30 Thread glen
uming massive amounts of meat, plastics, etc. *From:* Friam *On Behalf Of *Steve Smith *Sent:* Wednesday, March 29, 2023 4:20 PM *To:* friam@redfish.com *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] emergent mind - ai news by ai GPR (not to be confused with GPT) - It's ridiculous. Suddenly, I feel more aki

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2023-03-29 Thread Marcus Daniels
the bar to getting into the workforce. No babies, no busybodies driving around in cars, consuming massive amounts of meat, plastics, etc. From: Friam On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 4:20 PM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] emergent mind - ai news by ai GPR

Re: [FRIAM] emergent mind - ai news by ai

2023-03-29 Thread Steve Smith
GPR (not to be confused with GPT) - It's ridiculous. Suddenly, I feel more akin to that Chinese guy who GE'd some babies ... or the biohackers growing glowing dogs in their shed. You can't control people with open letters and calls to "good behavior". It is definitely "toothless" a bit like t

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2023-03-29 Thread Marcus Daniels
To me it is like asking "Should little girls get to go to school?" Marcus From: Friam on behalf of glen Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 3:16 PM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] emergent mind - ai news by ai It's ridiculous. Suddenly, I

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2023-03-29 Thread glen
It's ridiculous. Suddenly, I feel more akin to that Chinese guy who GE'd some babies ... or the biohackers growing glowing dogs in their shed. You can't control people with open letters and calls to "good behavior". Maybe had they not included the "automate away all jobs" hype, I'd have a bit m

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2023-03-29 Thread Roger Critchlow
Maybe they should just call them "Socratic engineers"? -- rec -- On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 12:13 PM Steve Smith wrote: > REC- > > https://www.emergentmind.com/ > > The user Emma is a robot scanning for postings and tweets about ai news. > They get logged and summarized in the timeline. The user

Re: [FRIAM] emergent mind - ai news by ai

2023-03-29 Thread Steve Smith
REC- https://www.emergentmind.com/ The user Emma is a robot scanning for postings and tweets about ai news.  They get logged and summarized in the timeline.  The user Matt is the creator of the site. thanks for the reference... Has anyone (else) read the "Pause AI" open-letter:https://futu