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“bring people along is too direct, too pushy. Confucius said “If I show
someone one corner of a rectangle and they don’t come
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Great point! There's always a mesh. Isolating off a single, abstracted,
delusionally unitary region of the mesh is, I think, a natural tendency. Even
if, as in some Eastern sense, one buys into something like positive feedback
(impact of secondary effects over immediate effects) or even Utilitar
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From: Friam On Behalf Of Douglass Carmichael
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 10:04 AM
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] causality east and west
A causes B western view,
A causes B western view, straight arrow.
The eastern view is look at the context of A and the context of B in widening
circles of effects at some point the circles will intersect. In the western
view secondary effects are discardedin the astern view secondary effect are
primary.
interesting
David,
How have you been? The CMU group that I worked in and Pearl's group at
UCLA worked in the same area. As I recall, he invented the concept of
d-separation and our group created algorithms to use it in inferring causal
models based on observational data (i.e. not experimental). My colleagu
Beth, would you mind giving some examples that are more concrete and explain
a bit how they work. I'm not as familiar with the biology as you are. When
I say our economy is demand driven, that's not the same as saying that there
are drivers that affect it. Supply is a driver. That's
a completely d
I want to look at what Beth said more closely. See below.
-- Russ
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:50 PM, wrote:
> G'day,
>
> For me its also where we perceive the "average" constraint is. In economic
> systems we think of them being demand driven, but I know of plenty of cases
> where production w
You're right. A command economy is very different. I was talking about a
market economy. And perhaps by definition a market economy is demand-driven
since there are no markets without demand.
-- Russ
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:13 PM, wrote:
>I suggested that a basic difference is that ecol
Thanks for the comments Patrick,
Gaia bothers me a bit. As you say, it may not be just "anthropomorphic
babble", but it sounds a lot like it--especially if referred to as
"she/her." Someone on the Friday group also mentioned Gaia. I had this to
say.
As generally understood the Gaia hypothesis
Carl, Jack,
Carl Tollander wrote:
> That said, I like theory anyhow, but in order to approach any of these
> TOE's, I've found that it helps to seek some understanding of their
> historical context (such as from the math and physics community blogs
> we've referred to elsewhere). I found some
I've been urging more people to read Stephenson's "Quicksilver", for
some sense of how new theories are embedded in historical context. The
first of many fine pithy quotes from the book,
"Those who assume hypotheses as first principles
of their specualtions...may indeed form an
, too.
>
> -J.
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Causality violations
I think it's simply that Russel has his computer date wrong (one day early),
and while Outlook uses the local arrival time, Thunderbird uses the remote
sender's time.
Of course it's pretty absurd that in 2006 we still don
I think it's simply that Russel has his computer date wrong (one day early),
and while Outlook uses the local arrival time, Thunderbird uses the remote
sender's time.
Of course it's pretty absurd that in 2006 we still don't have computers on
networks naturally synchronized time-wise by default. A
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