message From: Russ Abbott
Date: 7/27/24 12:36 AM (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity
Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Writing and Civilization
and AI, oh my! From a consciousness perspective, what (so-far) cannot be
encoded digitally by a robot are qualia. A ro
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2024 3:35 PM
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Writing and Civilization and AI, oh my!
>From a consciousness perspective, what (so-far) cannot be encoded digitally by
>a robot are qualia. A robot can encode light frequ
M Marcus Daniels wrote:
> Which of this cannot be encoded digitally by a robot?
>
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igitally by a robot?
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> I agree with one small caveat. Artifacts; tangible,
There were certainly indigenous peoples who were quite civilized, with
defended borders, and even functioning inter-tribal treaties, and to
my understanding, survived long periods of time with no written
language. It does, however, seem to me that they couldn't have
developed complex mathematical o
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> I agree with one small
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> I agree with one small caveat. Artifacts; tangible, written,
> stigmergic, ... are but a small part of what is "cooper
Which of this cannot be encoded digitally by a robot?
-Original Message-
From: Friam On Behalf Of Prof David West
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2024 12:12 PM
To: friam@redfish.com
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Writing and Civilization and AI, oh my!
I agree with one small caveat. Artifacts; tangible
I agree with one small caveat. Artifacts; tangible, written, stigmergic, ...
are but a small part of what is "cooperatively constructed and kneaded." The
vast majority of what an individual "knows" and the vast majority of what the
'collective' "knows" is tacit, 'in-the-mind' and transmitted ora
< Particularly galling to me is the deprecation and dismissal of any human
knowledge, wisdom, experience ... that cannot be reduced to mere words and
abstract symbols. The epitome of this is the conceit that AI—which is nothing
more than the algorithmic manipulation of abstract meaningless token
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