Re: [FRIAM] Thread Bust: WAS: stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

2021-10-26 Thread Jon Zingale
I am sad to say that my favorite online cellular automata app is now deceased[†]. In the very early 2000's, I worked as a medical secretary, in gastroenterology, at the Cleveland Clinic, in Cleveland. Every day, I would take a bus and then a train and then walk to a ziggurat at the center of the ca

Re: [FRIAM] Thread Bust: WAS: stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

2021-10-26 Thread Jon Zingale
*Usefulness* is almost certainly intensional. An *Image* can either be a beacon or a beckoning siren, with no way to distinguish from the type signature alone. That is, the use of an image may be maximally stateful. Discussion was at a point like this one, parallel discussions about canalization a

Re: [FRIAM] Thread Bust: WAS: stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

2021-10-26 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
It raises, I think, the question of whether large diagrams/visualizations like these are *categorically* different from close examination of the "physics" of the system. For the CA, VoC gives you not only the presets for the rule, but the ability to edit the rule. It reminds me of Andy Wuensche'

Re: [FRIAM] Thread Bust: WAS: stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

2021-10-26 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
Ha! Of course. Well, since you don't say what the "error" was, I suppose it's no skin off my nose. Both Windows and NetLogo are abominations. You choose your poison. >8^D If we take your "schooled to write a program yourself" point seriously, VoC would be the clear choice. If, instead, Miles is

Re: [FRIAM] Thread Bust: WAS: stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

2021-10-25 Thread thompnickson2
iam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Thread Bust: WAS: stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development Here's a kitchen sink program. I downloaded and tested it. https://softology.com.au/voc.htm Here's the results of my test for rule 30: https://youtu.be/sG-XZBta20M The high

Re: [FRIAM] Thread Bust: WAS: stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

2021-10-25 Thread thompnickson2
Monday, October 25, 2021 1:34 PM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Thread Bust: WAS: stygmergy, CA's, and > [biological] development > > > > Nick, > > I put the standard Netlogo CA model set to rule 30 onlin

Re: [FRIAM] Thread Bust: WAS: stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

2021-10-25 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
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Re: [FRIAM] Thread Bust: WAS: stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

2021-10-25 Thread Stephen Guerin
er 25, 2021 9:35 AM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > friam@redfish.com> > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Thread Bust: WAS: stygmergy, CA's, and > [biological] development > > > > You might want to try https://www.wolfram.com/language/. This co

Re: [FRIAM] Thread Bust: WAS: stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

2021-10-25 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
Here's a kitchen sink program. I downloaded and tested it. https://softology.com.au/voc.htm Here's the results of my test for rule 30: https://youtu.be/sG-XZBta20M The highlighted rows in the middle were used to generate the horizontal banner at the bottom, which makes MIDI music out of tha

Re: [FRIAM] Thread Bust: WAS: stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

2021-10-25 Thread thompnickson2
5 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Thread Bust: WAS: stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development You might want to try <https://www.wolfram.com/language/> https://www.wolfram.com/language/. This could work since the “programming”

Re: [FRIAM] Thread Bust: WAS: stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

2021-10-25 Thread Barry MacKichan
You might want to try https://www.wolfram.com/language/. This could work since the “programming” needed is minima (given that you have the interpretating program). See also https://www.wolfram.com/language/11/new-visualization-domains/plot-cellular-automata.html. There seem to be free versions