Re: [FRIAM] The true crisis is still to come

2008-10-28 Thread Russell Standish
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:36:19AM -0700, glen e. p. ropella wrote: > Thus spake Jochen Fromm circa 10/26/2008 07:25 AM: > > http://blog.cas-group.net/2008/10/the-true-crisis-is-still-to-come/ > > I'm currently reading "The Deep Hot Biosphere" and Gold presents a > pretty persuasive argument that

Re: [FRIAM] The true crisis is still to come

2008-10-27 Thread Phil Henshaw
it at first, asking whether the kind of effect we should see fits the general picture of what we are seeing. Phil Henshaw   > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of glen e. p. ropella > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 2:36 PM > T

Re: [FRIAM] The true crisis is still to come

2008-10-27 Thread Eric Smith
Hi Glen, Regarding the Thomas Gold book, I have been urged not to take it seriously by geologists I trust. I also do not have the expertise to enable an informed opinion of my own. They seem to suggest, however, that Gold purposely ignores (a lot of) evidence that works in favor of the conventio

Re: [FRIAM] The true crisis is still to come

2008-10-27 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Thus spake Jochen Fromm circa 10/26/2008 07:25 AM: > http://blog.cas-group.net/2008/10/the-true-crisis-is-still-to-come/ I'm currently reading "The Deep Hot Biosphere" and Gold presents a pretty persuasive argument that the hydrocarbons (oil, methane, coal, ...) we burn for energy are not (mostly)

Re: [FRIAM] The true crisis is still to come

2008-10-26 Thread Phil Henshaw
You really have to wonder in a complexity science forum why taking on endless multiplying complications, as a standard planning concept, would not be quickly brought into question. The opening statement in on that CAS webpage is: Forget the financial crisis, the true global economic crisis will