Re: [FRIAM] Potential Vorticity and the Dynamic Tropopause

2024-05-17 Thread Marcus Daniels
n of monks and priests. On 5/16/24 10:02, Marcus Daniels wrote: > The bias is emergent from the physical system. > > -Original Message- > From: Friam On Behalf Of glen > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2024 9:52 AM > To: friam@redfish.com > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Potential Vorti

Re: [FRIAM] Potential Vorticity and the Dynamic Tropopause

2024-05-16 Thread Marcus Daniels
The bias is emergent from the physical system. -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of glen Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2024 9:52 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Potential Vorticity and the Dynamic Tropopause How about "downward biasing"? Is that less rid

Re: [FRIAM] Potential Vorticity and the Dynamic Tropopause

2024-05-16 Thread glen
How about "downward biasing"? Is that less ridicul[ous|e-deserving]? If I'm a high order Markov process and my historicity heavily biases me toward a subspace of behaviors, isn't that reasonable labeled "downward causation"? On 5/16/24 08:32, Marcus Daniels wrote: I'd like to take a moment to

Re: [FRIAM] Potential Vorticity and the Dynamic Tropopause

2024-05-16 Thread Nicholas Thompson
I THINK MY OUTBOX MAY HAVE GAGGED ON THIS, SO HERE IT IS AGAIN. IT DOES NOT TAKE ACCOUNT OF GLEN'S COMMENTS. HI, GLEN: Hi David, great to hear from you! When looking at animals, communicate behavior, we look at the contingencies between the things that they do. Those contingencies can be both s

Re: [FRIAM] Potential Vorticity and the Dynamic Tropopause

2024-05-16 Thread Marcus Daniels
I'd like to take a moment to ridicule the notion of downward causality as I'm reading this. 😊 -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of glen Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2024 8:01 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Potential Vorticity and the Dynamic Tropopause I s

Re: [FRIAM] Potential Vorticity and the Dynamic Tropopause

2024-05-16 Thread glen
I suppose the problem is that LLMs aren't really about language at all. They're about the "rolling up" of sequential data into a lossy memory device that can later be queried for those (somewhat mutated) memories. Those sequential streams are of different types (vision, hearing, touch, etc.), a

Re: [FRIAM] Potential Vorticity and the Dynamic Tropopause

2024-05-15 Thread Prof David West
Nick, I hesitate to respond to your post because: 1) my interest in the weather is nominal, although I am bemused that here in St. Paul MN, we had more 50+ degrees in the December-February time frame than below 0 days (almost three times as many). Most unusual. 2) the response I wish to make i

Re: [FRIAM] Potential Vorticity and the Dynamic Tropopause

2024-05-14 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Dear Stephen, n all. I am sure you all will join me in condemning the practice of calling somebody at the crack of dawn. So, you will no doubt praise me (as I praise myself) for my generosity and flexiibility in taking the call from stephen, which came at the ungodly hour of 11.30 this morning.

Re: [FRIAM] Potential Vorticity and the Dynamic Tropopause

2024-04-14 Thread Stephen Guerin
Portrait of a weather watcher: As Nick is trying to model Stability and Diffusion, I had Stable Diffusion try to model Nick. :-) [image: 20240414_184733.jpg] Aya my previous post got html grabled as HTML. Thanks Gary for pointing that out off-list. On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 12:18 PM Stephen G

Re: [FRIAM] Potential Vorticity and the Dynamic Tropopause

2024-04-13 Thread Stephen Guerin
Dan GuPTa had this response when asked to relate your .PDF to Bernard cells and other prompting: Here’s a integration of potential vorticity (PV), atmospheric stability, and their relationship to Bénard cells, emphasizing isentropic layering in both meteorological and experimental fluid dynamics c