Re: [FRIAM] Joscha Bach claims Microsoft sentient but not conscious

2024-07-16 Thread steve smith
On 7/16/24 4:29 PM, Jochen Fromm wrote: A bit paradox: consciousness and language enable us to leave the bubble of nowness in which animals live I like this, reminded that the bubble of nowness and hereness (and thusness of our umwelt?), is transcended and transferable via language. I think

Re: [FRIAM] Joscha Bach claims Microsoft sentient but not conscious

2024-07-16 Thread steve smith
My litany of examples of entities in my life all share the fact of "living in a bubble of nowness".   The fact that those bubbles overlap to different degrees seems to contribute to our "mutual" apprehension of one another's consciousness (not symmetric). The non-animal entities at the best pr