[FRIAM] theoremdep

2019-04-09 Thread glen
I've slept since we had the thread about lemma concatenation. But this seems relevant: https://philpapers.org/rec/BARAHO-17?ref=mail "In other words, if cumulative deductive progress is not guaranteed, we cannot be sure that lemmas are knowledge checkpoints. But this seems quite an important pr

Re: [FRIAM] TheoremDep

2019-03-29 Thread Barry MacKichan
It sounds like somebody back then found a pretty sweet gig. --Barry > On Mar 29, 2019, at 6:01 PM, Steven A Smith wrote: > > One interesting > point was the clay-tablet records from Mesopotamia where algebraic > solutions of (all?) quadratics and many cubics were enumerated, but > redundantly

Re: [FRIAM] TheoremDep

2019-03-29 Thread Steven A Smith
Glen - > Yes, I can see that. The answer(s) to the question, though, is still > interesting. I tried to allude to it by offering the 3 alternatives: chain, > tree, mesh from the foundations up to "sophisticated" conclusions. It seems > to me that if one reacts to something like TheoremDep wit

Re: [FRIAM] TheoremDep

2019-03-29 Thread uǝlƃ ☣
On 3/29/19 9:29 AM, Steven A Smith wrote: > All I think Frank and Joe did was make a jump from TheoremDep the tool to > imagining things one might do with the underlying ConcepDag data structure...  >   "proof generation" I suppose. Yes, I can see that. The answer(s) to the question, though, i

Re: [FRIAM] TheoremDep

2019-03-28 Thread uǝlƃ ☣
That makes a lot of sense to me. I suppose my reaction (regarding misapplication of algorithms) has to do with something like "coherence-invariant composition" ... some sub-concept of truth-preservation through manipulation. Practically, it shows up in the (I claim false) distinction between

Re: [FRIAM] TheoremDep

2019-03-28 Thread Barry MacKichan
I’ll comment with a story. Really, did you expect me to answer a question with another question? Andrew Gleason was one of my favorite professors, and the solver of (one interpretation of) Hilbert’s 5th problem. At one time, I checked out his proof. It was hopeless. The statement that he was p

Re: [FRIAM] TheoremDep

2019-03-27 Thread glen∈ℂ
Unfortunately, I have no sense of humor. (Seriously. I've been told so by many witty persons.) So, the question remains. Do you think that theorem dependency project is about concatenating proofs? On 3/27/19 2:02 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote: Concatenate proofs. This reminds me of the old jok

Re: [FRIAM] TheoremDep

2019-03-27 Thread Frank Wimberly
Concatenate proofs. This reminds me of the old joke: An Engineer walks in her office and finds her trash can on fire. She gets the fire extinguisher and puts out the fire. The Mathematician walks in his office and finds his trash can on fire. He gets the fire extinguisher and puts out the fir

Re: [FRIAM] TheoremDep

2019-03-27 Thread glen∈ℂ
It's not clear to me that the intent of that dependency project is to concatenate proofs. Is that what you guys think it's purpose is? It seems, to me, more like a reliability analysis, where the trustworthiness of any component depends (to a greater or lesser) extent on the trustworthiness o

Re: [FRIAM] TheoremDep

2019-03-22 Thread Joe Spinden
Of course not.  Not to mention that there are often several different proofs of any significant theorem. Joe On 3/22/19 3:54 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote: I can see that the proof of a theorem can be constructed by concatenating proofs of theorems that it depends on but I wonder if that would pr

Re: [FRIAM] TheoremDep

2019-03-22 Thread Frank Wimberly
I can see that the proof of a theorem can be constructed by concatenating proofs of theorems that it depends on but I wonder if that would produce the most succinct and comprehensible proof. --- Frank Wimberly My memoir: https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly

[FRIAM] TheoremDep

2019-03-22 Thread uǝlƃ ☣
I saw this on reddit this morning and thought some of you might like it: https://sharmaeklavya2.github.io/theoremdep/ > Track dependencies between theorems. > About TheoremDep > TheoremDep contains many theorems and shows you the dependencies for each > theorem. Theorem X is said to be dependen