Re: [FRIAM] *-sovereignty

2021-10-21 Thread Jon Zingale
""" I'm thinking along the lines of your side note that propositions have many proofs (polyphenism) and agents have many identities (robustness). """ Thank you for that connection, I hadn't thought about it. It is the polyphenism that I typically find most exciting about proofs, the way proof of a

Re: [FRIAM] *-sovereignty

2021-10-21 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
Ah, thanks. So you were talking about robustness in both cases. Sorry for my confusion. I suppose there's also some ambiguity in "global". Sometimes I use "non-local" to indicate information bound to the context, but where there are still encapsulated/opaque regions. And then "global" means *ev

Re: [FRIAM] *-sovereignty

2021-10-21 Thread Jon Zingale
""" Could the verifier be allowed a global understanding using something akin to homomorphic encryption, though? """ In some sense I would suppose yes for FHE, but the method of verification in ZKP seems not to be. Again, you mentioned playing fast and loose with the bindings. It would be great to

Re: [FRIAM] *-sovereignty

2021-10-21 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
Could the verifier be allowed a global understanding using something akin to homomorphic encryption, though? I'm thinking along the lines of your side note that propositions have many proofs (polyphenism) and agents have many identities (robustness). I worry that I've missed your point, though,

Re: [FRIAM] *-sovereignty

2021-10-20 Thread Jon Zingale
I suppose the slogan could be: "Proofs are to propositions as identities are to agents", and in the context of zero knowledge protocols, the parallel extends to: φ: Verifying a proof without exposing the proof. ψ: Verifying an identity without exposing the identity. To the degree that φ is the ca

[FRIAM] *-sovereignty

2021-10-18 Thread Jon Zingale
*"It seems like ZKPs (perhaps including tech like homomorphic encryption) hint at a more elegant construct for demonstrating one's authenticity while preserving one's place on a spectrum between autonomy or panmixia."* Sure. I can imagine presenting a 4-coloring (AGCT) of a familiar sequence and t

Re: [FRIAM] *-sovereignty

2021-10-18 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
Right, which came on the tail end of the argument about anti-vaxers' claims of bodily sovereignty. Part of Kim's argument *for* the vaccine mandates is that one's self doesn't really stop at one's skin. We're permeable to, participants in, the molecular/organismal stew in which we swim. In this

Re: [FRIAM] *-sovereignty

2021-10-18 Thread Stephen Guerin
At VFriam with Glen and Jon. as I came into their discussion on identity, I brought up Self-Sovereignty Identity as something we're designing for in our day job with Realtime.Earth. If we classify Web 1.0 (1993-2005) roughly simple pages with databases and forms. Web 2.0 (~2005-2015) was an era o

Re: [FRIAM] *-sovereignty

2021-10-18 Thread Marcus Daniels
So dismissive of the analog information.. > On Oct 18, 2021, at 10:21 AM, uǝlƃ ☤>$ wrote: > >  > The Diverse Meanings of Digital Sovereignty > https://globalmedia.mit.edu/2020/08/05/the-diverse-meanings-of-digital-sovereignty/ > > " > 1) Cyberspace sovereignty > 2) State Digital Sovereignty >

[FRIAM] *-sovereignty

2021-10-18 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
The Diverse Meanings of Digital Sovereignty https://globalmedia.mit.edu/2020/08/05/the-diverse-meanings-of-digital-sovereignty/ " 1) Cyberspace sovereignty 2) State Digital Sovereignty 3) Indigenous digital sovereignty 4) Social movements digital sovereignty 5) 'Personal' digital sovereignty " O