Re: [FRIAM] [un]official disambiguation?

2024-07-02 Thread steve smith
Eric - Roberts is the one I have to work harder to find words for. Not because it is hard to know what I think of him, but because it is hard to put the right terms together. It’s a kind of blandly presented disingenuousness, but so over-the-top disingenuous that that is where I run out of

Re: [FRIAM] [un]official disambiguation?

2024-07-02 Thread steve smith
Thanks. That makes it clearer. I had written, in response to Steve, a whole diatribe on the convexity of the space (or lack thereof) and how the space-filling curve of our laws and distributed court and executive system constrains the space of outcomes ... totally without any kind of Thielian

Re: [FRIAM] [un]official disambiguation?

2024-07-02 Thread Santafe
Yeah. Worse than that. If I look at Thomas and Alito, I’m not sure it would even be necessary to bribe them, apart from some coordination services. They are both characters of grievance. In that sense, not far removed at all from the MAGAs on the street. Mostly they want to poke somebody in

Re: [FRIAM] [un]official disambiguation?

2024-07-02 Thread steve smith
A little nitpickery (disambiguation?) of my own, larded and marbled in: The MAGAs aren't the wealthy, they are envious of the wealthy. DJT included. Yes, MAGAs are not wealthy except relatively as we all are... but I think there is a skew there... the truly wealthy backing MAGA are in fact us

Re: [FRIAM] [un]official disambiguation?

2024-07-02 Thread glen
Well, maybe. But a significant part of The Plan is indoctrination and court-packing through the Federalist Society. So maybe Thomas is a useful idiot. But maybe Gorsuch, ACB, and Alito are purposeful. I'm not clear on Kavanaugh. He's a political operator rather than a court-side purist. That c

Re: [FRIAM] [un]official disambiguation?

2024-07-02 Thread Marcus Daniels
I think SCOTUS might be useful idiots too. Easily bribed like with a motor home and free vacations. -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of glen Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2024 10:11 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] [un]official disambiguation? Right. MAGA are the usef

Re: [FRIAM] [un]official disambiguation?

2024-07-02 Thread glen
Right. MAGA are the useful idiots being exploited by the conservative arm of SCOTUS to push through the Unitary Executive, which, in turn, is the "useful idiot" being exploited by the wealthy to achieve the oligarchy as a stepping stone. And to some extent, this is Thiel's "Straussian Moment" o

Re: [FRIAM] [un]official disambiguation?

2024-07-02 Thread Marcus Daniels
The MAGAs aren't the wealthy, they are envious of the wealthy. DJT included. -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of glen Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2024 6:28 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] [un]official disambiguation? I worry this is too conspiratorial. The only way I

Re: [FRIAM] [un]official disambiguation?

2024-07-02 Thread glen
I worry this is too conspiratorial. The only way I can see it sustaining is if we take selfishness as a core human trait in the same way we take reason/rationality as a core human trait. Both are false as crisp categories. But there's enough of either (and their inverses - self-sacrificing and