Re: [FRIAM] health care logistics

It has been known for a long time that the most effective means of birth / population control was educating girls, followed closely by empowering girls, e.g., with micro-loans to start businesses. I remember studying this topic way back in the 80s in my anthropology graduate program. davew On

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Merle wrote: < China's population has stopped growing--primarily because there are more urban educated workers, especially women. > Estimate in Hawken's book was the 6th largest potential reduction for CO2 drawdown came from educating girls. His reference was: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1

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China's population has stopped growing--primarily because there are more urban educated workers, especially women. On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 7:11 PM Frank Wimberly wrote: > Excellent, Marcus. > > Eric, if it's less than 90% it still would have be significant. Two > problems, "God" has tricks for

Re: [FRIAM] FRom Merle

So grateful Marcus. This is exactly what I needed to see. I will add "ecological overshoot" to my lecture about the problems with the phrase "clean energy" and "Green New Deal." On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 1:52 PM Marcus Daniels wrote: > Marcus Daniels has shared a OneDrive for Business file with

Re: [FRIAM] There is a Thich Nhat Hanh sized hole in the Universe

with regard glen's criticisms: The synonymy of layer and level. Neither word is really appropriate, even as metaphor; the real relationship being much more akin to dependency. Mind consciousness is "dependent" on Manas Consciousness. Theoretically you could test this empirically by excising t

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The great threat to the climate are economists! https://www.reuters.com/world/china/reactions-chinas-new-three-child-policy-2021-05-31/ On Jan 24, 2022, at 6:12 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote:  Excellent, Marcus. Eric, if it's less than 90% it still would have be significant. Two problems, "God"

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Excellent, Marcus. Eric, if it's less than 90% it still would have be significant. Two problems, "God" has tricks for making babies. As for 1 child per couple didn't they "terminate" some babies (not fetuses, feti?), particularly females? My impression is that their population has grown substan

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Before I launch into a diatribe about why the hell we can't agree to basic, never mind interesting things: I'd just like to report that the James Webb telescope is in L2 orbit. Score one for the negotiating, patient, subtlety-appreciating scientists and their counterparts in government. Marc

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Government is dead, so this is all that is left. > On Jan 24, 2022, at 4:33 PM, glen wrote: > > Well, that was the point of my recent link: > > The Fake Futurism of Elon Musk > https://youtu.be/5OtKEetGy2Y > > There's a trend away from good old fashioned futurism to this Tony Stark > near-ra

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Well, that was the point of my recent link: The Fake Futurism of Elon Musk https://youtu.be/5OtKEetGy2Y There's a trend away from good old fashioned futurism to this Tony Stark near-radical thing, analogous to the Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez appeal to the youngsters. I blame it on comics and supe

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SFI sponsorship seems like very much a fideistic declaration. It would be interesting to see how that influence network feeds into a D.C. influencer network and real money. There are some linkages, like Brookings, but leverage-wise it all seems much softer than with LANL and the DOE. And i

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Well, that ain't true, either. Like Epstein, when you "invest" in the SFI or people like Steven Pinker or Bill Clinton, you're simply transferring from one store to another ... buying influence. If, e.g., the CIA contracts with the SFI to adapt a CAS modeling tool into a broad spectrum simulati

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It seems to me we have rich investors that act with varying degrees of awareness of what they are buying and varying degrees of coherence in their `vision'. Some of them sponsor SFI for goodness' sake! They'll never see THAT money again! The whole venture capital thing seems as all over th

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Right. I think there are some reasons why super-rich people need up front fideistic declarations. But we can ignore those. And Musk's case is interesting. By definition, Musk is a perfect example of fake it till you make it. The *promise* of populating Mars. The technophile solutions to problem

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So, there is (in this view) an expectation of a declared update process for principles -- a sort of policy database. This update process enables one to have some faith in other agents. It is easy to see why this faith is needed to establish cooperation. It is less easy to see why it is nece

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Frank writes: < I am sensitive about mentioning it after Friday's meeting. > Because of some sensitive snowflakes that need to be desensitized? 🙂 Marcus From: Friam on behalf of Frank Wimberly Sent: Monday, January 24, 2022 3:05 PM To: The Friday Morning Ap

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That's a cool paper. Thanks. But I think there's some kind of observability (beyond reachability) assumption you're making that I'm not. Corruption isn't about a change in dynamics so much as it's a difference between the actual and expected behavior. How one gets to "expected" is what we're a

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Q in Star Trek and QAnon would be similar in the sense of being antiheros. Q cleared people aren't that. They are strongly driven toward low entropy and rule- following. (That's why Q in QAnon would be an antihero -- she'd be breaking out.) Elites are different still. They are a clique.

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I apologize. By "DLU" I meant Don't Look Up. I am sensitive about mentioning it after Friday's meeting. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Mon, Jan 24, 2022, 3:00 PM David Eric Smith wrote: > Neat, thank you Frank, > > If anyone else wa

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< I read the Seibert and Rees article. It looks like a DLU scenario could be a blessing. If course we have no control over that. Who thinks it's possible to reduce the population of the Earth by almost 90% ? > If we aren't taking planes, I guess there's no danger of screaming children on the

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I guess I don't get it. On one hand an agent is defined by her many body interactions with others, on the other hand somehow some enduring sort of properties of the individual agents -- these principles -- matter with regard to maintaining the many body relationships. Intuitively if some sub

Re: [FRIAM] There is a Thich Nhat Hanh sized hole in the Universe

I can't add to the content like Dave has. But I can render my perspective on the words in this article. Because I am nothing but a critic, my perspective is critical. The first criticism is the synonymy between "layer" and "level", of which I've complained before. Even if, when he says "level",

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I read the Seibert and Rees article. It looks like a DLU scenario could be a blessing. If course we have no control over that. Who thinks it's possible to reduce the population of the Earth by almost 90% ? --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM

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Hm. So you're distinguishing between someone calling the actor "corrupt" versus the actor, itself, thinking it's "corrupted". I agree that a closed actor proceeds with (little or) no concern for its neighbors' opinions. But that doesn't mean it's immune to corruption, even purely *social* corru

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Glen writes: < That's not true at all. Closed systems do have disclosures in terms of the behavior of their boundary. Granted, one may not have constitutive understanding of what's happening inside the membrane. But one can profile the behavior of the surface. And if that behavior changes over

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That's not true at all. Closed systems do have disclosures in terms of the behavior of their boundary. Granted, one may not have constitutive understanding of what's happening inside the membrane. But one can profile the behavior of the surface. And if that behavior changes over time, then it's

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Glen writes: Closed systems don't have disclosures, so there's can't be this social notion of corruption. I changed my mind today: I'll put new quarters into the machine and see what happens. Marcus From: Friam on behalf of glen Sent: Monday, January 24, 2

Re: [FRIAM] FRom Merle

Marcus Daniels has shared a OneDrive for Business file with you. To view it, click the link below. [https://r1.res.office365.com/owa/prem/images/dc-pdf_20.png]

[FRIAM] FRom Merle

Below is the link that doesn't work. If someone there can resend it, I'd be most appreciative. https://ideas.repec.org/a/gam/jeners/v14y2021i15p4508-d601755.html < https://ideas.repec.org/a/gam/jeners/v14y2021i15p4508-d601755.html> < https://ideas.repec.org/a/gam/jeners/v14y2021i15p4508-d601755.

Re: [FRIAM] Complexity, Ottawa and Nanotechnology (was Re: Struck me as funny)

Merle, go to phys.org and click on the Nanotechnology tab. https://phys.org/nanotech-news/ . Free, as in birds. Short, usually accessible, articles on what's current research, sort of on the level of Science News. The article usually wind up with a please-fund-me paragraph on potential applica

Re: [FRIAM] There is a Thich Nhat Hanh sized hole in the Universe

Thich Nhat Hanh was Vietnamese and his teachings reflect the context of Theravada rather than Mahayana Buddhism and a pedant would notice differences and nuances that are important to scholarship, but not germane here. The four levels of consciousness is quite useful and accurate as it is. Some

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Well, yeah, I see little evidence of such principle-free attractors too ... because I'm conditioned to think all actors have prior principles and, when they achieve power, they slide into corruption. I.e. I see no evidence that there are no such thing as unprincipled actors. And that means, as

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< But even if we gave up on the idea that there's an, in principle, set of values to start with, we can still arrive at an attractor so strong that the system will never leave it. > If what you mean is that there are consequences to indifference to the environment and to each other, I don't see

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Scaled need for entropy: It's not clear to me why we'd believe smaller orgs need less entropy. I agree they have smaller *stores* of "energy". And, to some extent, I can see that some ways entropy manifests could dissipate those stores more than they accumulate them. (Regarding meeting objectiv

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Glen writes: < Those questions translate to health care in the form of motivation comparison between, e.g., pharma employees. Some are in it for the science. Some are in it for the money. Some are humanitarians. Etc. Do the executives share the values of their employees? A little? A lot? The sa

Re: [FRIAM] Complexity, Ottawa and Nanotechnology (was Re: Struck me as funny)

Some more on Philip Ball on Nanoscience albeit 2003-2010: https://philipball.co.uk/articles/nanoscience ___ stephen.gue...@simtable.com CEO, Simtable http://www.simtable.com 1600 Lena St #D1, Santa Fe, NM 87505 office: (505)995-0

[FRIAM] Complexity, Ottawa and Nanotechnology (was Re: Struck me as funny)

Merle, I'm no expert but here are some writings I trust Philip Ball as a science writer that distills well and doesn't add mushy fluff: https://academic.oup.com/nsr/article/8/6/nwaa266/6009035 There's some debate on using the framework of Complexity as an appropriate lens for nanotechnology (I o

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Eric, your link didn't work. Could you please re-send. Thanks. On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 12:01 PM glen wrote: > At first, I struggled to see how this mapped to health care logistics. But > on 2nd read, it clearly does. > > The question that now dominates is a) shared values - even if it's > over

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At first, I struggled to see how this mapped to health care logistics. But on 2nd read, it clearly does. The question that now dominates is a) shared values - even if it's overshoot and we know it's overshoot, do the exploiters (and their rhetorical victims) care at all about the same things th

Re: [FRIAM] Struck me as funny

Merle writes: < Anyway, his research field is nanotechnology. Is it here? Where has it been applied? Is it an incredibly generative technology that will change our near-term future? HELP, and thanks. > A new Mac laptop uses a 5 nm fabrication process. The silicon atoms from which it is c

Re: [FRIAM] Struck me as funny

Annals of thread bending! Whew! Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ From: Friam On Behalf Of Merle Lefkoff Sent: Monday, January 24, 2022 12:29 PM To: The Friday Morni

Re: [FRIAM] Struck me as funny

On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 10:36 AM wrote: > New York City Mayor Eric Adams (D) on Sunday morning said the Big Apple is > planning to dispatch mental health professionals > > to it

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Merle needs a bit of help. I'm teaching a short online course this week for the U. of Ottawa, and one of the guys in my course is the Dean of the School of Engineering. (Why, I can't imagine.) Anyway, his research field is nanotechnology. Is it here? Where has it been applied? Is it an incredi

Re: [FRIAM] Struck me as funny

I was a fan of Ray Donovan on Showtime. Its finale I thought was well done and connected the dots from childhood to advanced PTSD in adulthood of the main character. The interesting bit was that the therapist he eventually turns to (Alan Alda) is soon wise to his criminal life but remains en

[FRIAM] Struck me as funny

New York City Mayor Eric Adams (D) on Sunday morning said the Big Apple is planning to dispatch mental health professionals to its subway system as a way to prevent crime. He sa