Re: [FRIAM] to the local congregation

Good idea, Nick. Hope you're stocking up on food and stuff--Trader Joe's was a scene of mass panic today. On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 7:20 PM wrote: > Hi, everybody, > > > > Please, if you have any of the signs of the corona virus – principally an > otherwise unexplained fever and/or a dry cough –

Re: [FRIAM] Coronavirus: Why You Must Act Now - Tomas Pueyo - Medium

I sent the following to Nick in response to a question about the availability of the Coffee Shop. I'll check the Coffee Shop regardless. If it's a shambles and a few Friam people show up, maybe I'll lead a small caravan to Saveur. --- Frank C. Wimberly 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Thu, Mar 12,

Re: [FRIAM] Coronavirus: Why You Must Act Now - Tomas Pueyo - Medium

Hey, Tom, Is it possible to use public data skills to find out how prepared the santa fe hospital is? How many respirators, for instance? Nick Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology Clark University thompnicks...@gmail.c

Re: [FRIAM] Coronavirus: Why You Must Act Now - Tomas Pueyo - Medium

I plan on going to FRIAM. I will bring my own coffee just in case. Tom On Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 8:57 PM wrote: > All > > > > ST johns is sending its students home for spring break with the > expectation that they will not return until the fall. > > > > March 11 | Notice to Santa Fe Students

Re: [FRIAM] Coronavirus: Why You Must Act Now - Tomas Pueyo - Medium

All ST johns is sending its students home for spring break with the expectation that they will not return until the fall. March 11 | Notice to Santa Fe Students (Note: This email was forwarded to parents of current students on March 11.) Dear Students, W

Re: [FRIAM] to the local congregation

lol I prefer to think of at Sociaty is Disturbing...but nerdy works to. And now is a great time to brush up on zombie apocolypse rules: Clowns and Script Writers are scary! Run...Just run.(cardio) Double Tap(If said zombie is still moving make it un-moving!) Source: https://zombie.fandom.com/wiki/

Re: [FRIAM] to the local congregation

Let the nerdy introverts among us celebrate that social distancing is now a good thing! :-) From: Friam on behalf of "thompnicks...@gmail.com" Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Date: Thursday, March 12, 2020 at 6:20 PM To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Cof

[FRIAM] to the local congregation

Hi, everybody, Please, if you have any of the signs of the corona virus - principally an otherwise unexplained fever and/or a dry cough - and/or if you have flown within the last week, please give the next FRIAM meeting a miss until your situation resolves. Our average age is in the 70's and

Re: [FRIAM] Coronavirus: Why You Must Act Now - Tomas Pueyo - Medium

Very good article. Our daughter, a microbiologist at Victoria University in Wellington, NZ, recommends following the twitter account of Marc Lipsitch, microbiologist/epdemiologist (https://twitter.com/mlipsitch) at Harvard, for reliable information. —Barry On 12 Mar 2020, at 15:09, thompnicks

[FRIAM] Coronavirus: Why You Must Act Now - Tomas Pueyo - Medium

https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3 d9cd99ca This is the best article I have read which makes clear what is going on, and why it is important to go into lockdown mode now until testing and masks and other equipment are universally available. I think schoo

Re: [FRIAM] science privilege — fork from acid epistemology

I didn't intend for it to address hallucinations but to give an example of philosophers aiding in the advance of science. --- Frank C. Wimberly 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 11:55 AM uǝlƃ ☣ wrote: > How is this related to conversations about whether or not hallucinations > are

Re: [FRIAM] science privilege — fork from acid epistemology

the papers were papers in the main tracks of the conference — not student poster presentations. davew On Thu, Mar 12, 2020, at 7:13 PM, Prof David West wrote: > The evolution of philosophy to science is ubiquitous. Charles Needham > documented how essentially all of Chinese science evolved from

Re: [FRIAM] science privilege — fork from acid epistemology

The evolution of philosophy to science is ubiquitous. Charles Needham documented how essentially all of Chinese science evolved from, mostly, Taoist philosophy. Computational Science ala Leibniz derived from the Theistic Philosophy of Ramon Lull. Alchemy to Chemistry, etc. etc. I agree with Gl

Re: [FRIAM] science privilege — fork from acid epistemology

Not much I expect. The only hallucinations I've had are boring flashing lights and geometric patterns. --- Frank C. Wimberly 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 11:55 AM uǝlƃ ☣ wrote: > How is this related to conversations about whether or not hallucinations > are real? > > On 3/12

Re: [FRIAM] science privilege — fork from acid epistemology

How is this related to conversations about whether or not hallucinations are real? On 3/12/20 10:53 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote: > Not part of Tetrad but more philosophical see:   > >Glymour, C., and Wimberly, F. > Actual Causes and Thought Experiments, > in Joseph Keim Campbell, M

Re: [FRIAM] science privilege — fork from acid epistemology

Not part of Tetrad but more philosophical see: Glymour, C., and Wimberly, F. Actual Causes and Thought Experiments, in Joseph Keim Campbell, Michael O'Rourke, Harry S. Silverstein (eds.), Causation and Explanation, MIT Press, Cambridge, July 2007. --- Frank C. Wimberly 505 6

Re: [FRIAM] science privilege — fork from acid epistemology

I'll venture a comment. My last position at Carnegie Mellon was as a "Principal Scientist" in the Philosophy Department. My colleagues over the years had developed algorithms for inferring causal models based on observational data. Didn't someone here recently say that correlation is not causatio

Re: [FRIAM] science privilege — fork from acid epistemology

Sorry, Glen. I didn't mean to imply any kind of argument in the matter. The comment just interested me, and I thought you might have information to share with me. It wasn't clear that I could even support the more general proposition, the one I thought you were making, let alone the more spec

Re: [FRIAM] science privilege — fork from acid epistemology

I'm not going to answer because that's irrelevant. The challenge is whether or not conversations like this impact the science done by those who have them. On 3/12/20 9:56 AM, thompnicks...@gmail.com wrote: > Ah! When you say that the benefit of philosophy to science is > "straightforward", what

Re: [FRIAM] science privilege — fork from acid epistemology

G Ah! When you say that the benefit of philosophy to science is "straightforward", what do you have in mind? N Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology Clark University thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ -Original Message- From:

Re: [FRIAM] Nothing to do with over thinking Terms: People have gone off the deep end hoarding everything in brick and mortar stores

Yeah, just go ahead and panic. https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/iran-coronavirus-outbreak-graves/?itid=hp_hp-top-table-main_iran-virus-burials-1035am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans From: Friam on behalf of Gillian Densmore Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group

Re: [FRIAM] science privilege — fork from acid epistemology

That is confused. What I asked for was evidence that having philosophical conversations improves the science being produced by those having the conversations. The *history* project of showing the evolution of philosophical ideas into scientific ideas is straightforward. But that's not what needs

[FRIAM] Nothing to do with over thinking Terms: People have gone off the deep end hoarding everything in brick and mortar stores

Exhibit A https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipNQRCshJnOPtN_IsxpiAiLIoujbBVlXgYefrXb8 Problem is doing routine shopping. I have a few rolls of paper towels and TP. Tap Dancing ObiWan guys! Hoarding crap because some idiot on the news is in hysterics about this Corona/Cyphid19 stuff. What hap

Re: [FRIAM] science privilege — fork from acid epistemology

Dave, Yes, and I am stewing about Glen's challenge to produce any EVIDENCE that philosophy has EVER helped science. I think part of the problem with that is that when a philosophical insight gets incorporated into science it begins to look like method, rather than like philosophy. Think

Re: [FRIAM] science privilege — fork from acid epistemology

In trying to infer an arc from your post, I reduced it to these bullets: 1) preclusion of some lines of investigation 2) science is not scientific 3) physics devolving into metaphysics 4) practical questions science can't answer ("dangerosity") 5) robustness and polyphenism in computing 6) extrins

[FRIAM] science privilege — fork from acid epistemology

Privileging "Science' — "Scientific Thinking" — "Scientific Method," even to the extent of deeming it the "best available" tool for acquiring knowledge and understanding, raises some, to me, interesting questions. The first and most obvious, is why certain questions and lines of investigation