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Too bad we're not in Boston. -- Forwarded message - From: Daniel Lewis Sussman Date: Wed, Jan 22, 2020, 11:25 PM Subject: Fwd: Seminar Announcement- Statistical Neuroscience Seminar To: , In case you haven't already received this, please see below for the announcement for this

Re: [FRIAM] Murdoch and Trump

On 1/22/20 1:27 PM, thompnicks...@gmail.com wrote: > */[NST===>] Of course, I value the relation between the logical structure of > models and their products, irrespective of what use they might be put to.  > Isn’t that mathematics? /* I'm not that interested in defining math. But it is intere

Re: [FRIAM] Murdoch and Trump

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Re: [FRIAM] Murdoch and Trump

On 1/22/20 12:23 PM, thompnicks...@gmail.com wrote: > [*/NST===>] Not Epstein himself, but another >

Re: [FRIAM] Murdoch and Trump

Oh, Pieter, I allow no rivals in my ability to not understand complex ideas, particularly those deployed on this forum. I think my logic went as follows: All success (by definition) must be self sustaining. (Temporary success is an oxymoron) P S declares, “The Enlightenment requir

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Re: [FRIAM] Murdoch and Trump

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Nick, Your welcome. Thanks for allowing me. I'm afraid I don't understand. Why can't enlightenment grow upon soil that enlightenment has succeeded on? Do you mind to explain? (Ever since primary school I was a bit slow to understand) Pieter On Wed, 22 Jan 2020 at 21:13, wrote: > Pieter, > > >

Re: [FRIAM] Murdoch and Trump

Pieter, Thanks for writing. I stipulate to your main point … that at least, in some places things are getting better, and that enlightenment institutions have made that happen. (My wife says I should work harder on my stipulations.) BUT it does appear that “enlightenment” is kind of a

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FWIW, if you're worried about that sort of thing, you might try using a site like SMMRY: https://smmry.com/https://www.abqjournal.com/1410925/mit-students-protest-prof-with-sfi-ties.html#&SM_LENGTH=7 Also, in Firefox, there's a "reader view" that often gets me past pay walls and ant-ad-blocker

Re: [FRIAM] Murdoch and Trump

Did Epstein ever respond to your (& Derr's) criticism? "Opaque" isn't a perfect substitute for "obtuse", but it's OK. By "obtuse", I really mean "low interpretability", where interpretability is the extent to which one can *read* and *understand* the structure of a model. It's mostly used in th

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Nick, About your "if the Enlightenment has worked, it should not need defense, right?" If people do not recognize that it has worked, is it wrong to point out that it has worked? I'm not claiming there are no global problems - there certainly are. But things are getting better, not? I've recently

Re: [FRIAM] Murdoch and Trump

Steve, Do you remember “feed the dinosaur”; I think it was a Marxist trope of sixties. At least one person here argues that human extinction is one viable solution to our problem. I understand what an obtuse model, here, although I understand it because I substitute the word “opaque

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Would not want you to go to jail for this. I do not subscribe either, but was able to read the article by clicking on the original link. I am inclined to give Seth Lloyd the benefit of the doubt.  I met him with his wife and child at the Downtown Subscription many years ago.  They seemed to

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An organization like SFI that depends on rich donors needs to be careful about giving money back when a rich donor proves to have done something sleazy. They could be giving a lot of money back, and most of which they've already spent! Or it could even be more absurd: Appealing to one new d

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You realize I could go to jail for this. Be a good citizen, a supportive member of the community and buy the LOCAL newspapers. -sss#ds An external professor and member of the science board at Santa Fe Institute has been placed on paid leave by the Massachusetts Institute of Technology

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Tom – Pay wall!! Can you say more? N Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology Clark University thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

Re: [FRIAM] Murdoch and Trump

I ==>so<== want to agree with you Pieter. But there is a contradiction here: if the Enlightenment has worked, it should not need defense, right? A system that “works” does not sow the seeds or its own destruction, right? Nick Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psy

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Say more, Merle. Didn’t understand. n Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology Clark University thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ From: Friam On Behal

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My guess is that human intelligence approximately follows a normal distribution? I think there are many average intelligent people on earth, few morons and geniuses? I have always thought of human intelligence as like the immune system. It is intensely group selected. To facilitate multip

[FRIAM] MIT students protest prof with SFI ties » Albuquerque Journal

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Re: [FRIAM] Murdoch and Trump

Too much (IMO) of our contemporary (public and private?) discourse seems to be high on confirmation bias.    The ensemble of possible futures (trajectories through?) has exploded (see Kauffman's "Adjacent Possible") both with the growth of technological complexity and with the shift in distributio

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So much trouble? I'm an enthusiastic supporter of Steven Pinker's, I quote from https://www.amazon.com/Enlightenment-Now-Science-Humanism-Progress/dp/0525427570 : "If you think the world is coming to an end, think again: people are living longer, healthier, freer, and happier lives, and while our

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My intuition matches yours. But I was also including animals like social insects, bees, termites, etc. And I think it would be reasonable to scale this all the way down to prokaryotes. The point being that the extent to which an organism can *model* the world is mostly limited and extremely limi

Re: [FRIAM] Murdoch and Trump

This is the hubris that has got us into so much trouble! On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 1:00 AM Pieter Steenekamp < piet...@randcontrols.co.za> wrote: > Yep, I would go for this one. IMO we are involved in a collective process > where communication, reason, and action are indeed possible and > flourishi

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The distribution of a small number of big ones and very large number small ones (like in a scale free network with a power law distribution) is an emerging property of a complex system where agents interact with each other. I don’t think human intellect distribution falls in this category. My guess

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The problem with Marcus' question is its 2 types of closure. 1) communication, reason, and action are separable. But the question convolves them. And 2) any instance of communication, reason, or action won't be complete. (I'm reminded of Wolpert's paper: https://arxiv.org/abs/0708.1362) And thi

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Yep, I would go for this one. IMO we are involved in a collective process where communication, reason, and action are indeed possible and flourishing. Sure there are risks, climate change being one but not the only one. Humanity is still very fragile and vulnerable to existential risks like climate