Re: [FRIAM] culture vs things (was: capitalism vs. individualism)

Software development (not computer science or software engineering) should be the most "people" oriented profession out there. Software is written collaboratively by people. Software affects every aspect of other people's lives: work, play, love, ... . More software failures are caused by people

Re: [FRIAM] capitalism vs. individualism

Glen writes: "And I've heard people talk about *engaging* with Trumpists and trying to tease apart whatever good or bad the ecology associated with Trump has done or not done. But I fail every time I try. How do you crack open that layered chitin an Ismist accretes around their self without ki

Re: [FRIAM] Better self phone plan deals?

Oh that is nice. On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 8:59 PM Carl Tollander wrote: > My Google Fi (TMobile & Sprint & someothercarrier & Wifi) averaging about > 45/mo. Around 27 base with taxes, then $10/GB. It could get up in the 80 > buck range if you used a lot of data but they cap the costs (not the d

Re: [FRIAM] the Commons and Convenience

Trains in Japan. Few folks in the US have any idea, at a visceral level, what a high cognitive price they are paying for their pattern of usage of the automobile. Even if the vehicle doesn't run on gas. Probably not about relative economies, so educating them will likely have little effect.

Re: [FRIAM] the Commons and Convenience

I find that if I have a more economical vehicle, that I'm somehow motivated to drive more. " Fuel Economy" may here be more of a dimensional collapse to a more easily apprehended category. Anyhow Why is that? The hybrid car (RAV4 hybrid) will gradually train me, via feedback availability

Re: [FRIAM] Better self phone plan deals?

My Google Fi (TMobile & Sprint & someothercarrier & Wifi) averaging about 45/mo. Around 27 base with taxes, then $10/GB. It could get up in the 80 buck range if you used a lot of data but they cap the costs (not the data) at 6GB, so I would never pay more than around $90 which is unlikely for me.

Re: [FRIAM] capitalism vs. individualism

Very very sorry Glen You said “as a people”. There was no need for my reply. E > On Nov 12, 2019, at 10:04 AM, Eric Smith wrote: > > Good thread; far more than I can process. > > But… (from Glen’s anecdote) > >> This episode challenged my understanding of infrastructure. I don't think >

Re: [FRIAM] the Commons and Convenience

Steve writes: < It is also hard to give up "convenience", once habituated toit. I can barely imagine tying up a hardwired phone line to get 300 or 1200bps internet service today... I think I'd probably do without somehow. I once walked, ran, rode my bike miles and miles to get whe

[FRIAM] the Commons and Convenience

I'd say "it's hard to share"... any "Commons" and maybe even moreso when the Commons in question require big investment and technological development...   but I'm not quite sure why... it is as if whatever the Commons delivers, we expect more? It is also hard to give up "convenience", once habitua

[FRIAM] Enduring Stories

A minor tangent from the Isms perhaps, but related I think: https://www.brainpickings.org/2015/06/16/neil-gaiman-how-stories-last/ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscr

Re: [FRIAM] capitalism vs. individualism

Glen writes: < But even though the auto shop is only a few blocks from the trolley stop, she *refused* to take it. It was much more convenient for her to have me slice out 2 hours (1 hour per trip) of my day, burn a bunch of gas, etc. than it was to ride the train(s). And she's (ostensibly) al

Re: [FRIAM] capitalism vs. individualism

Good thread; far more than I can process. But… (from Glen’s anecdote) > This episode challenged my understanding of infrastructure. I don't think > Renee's alone in this. I've heard people complain of the tiniest things about > their public trans trips ... someone smacking their food ... someon

Re: [FRIAM] capitalism vs. individualism

On 11/11/19 2:44 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > It is more complicated that urban vs. rural.   In the bay area, I do have > true gigabit speed from AT&T, but it was government regulation that > facilitated >

Re: [FRIAM] Better self phone plan deals?

@Tom Johnson Do you know if that includes any discounts? (without prying) On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 3:26 PM Tom Johnson wrote: > I pay T-Mobile $70 for two lines, unlimited data. Call them or go to the > store and negotiate. > Tom > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2019, 3:22 PM Gillian Densmore > wrote: > >>

Re: [FRIAM] capitalism vs. individualism

Glen writes: < Perhaps rural America is obsolete and that's what's wrong? If so, infrastructure projects would be the fastest way to eliminate it, not to move the people out, but to move the city in ... make the entire 9.8 million km^2 into an urban, managed, space. Of course, I can't even ge

Re: [FRIAM] Better self phone plan deals?

I pay T-Mobile $70 for two lines, unlimited data. Call them or go to the store and negotiate. Tom On Mon, Nov 11, 2019, 3:22 PM Gillian Densmore wrote: > Hi all my Tmobile plan at the moment is now at least 80 dollars. (it's > unlimited data FWIW) . Thinking that's pretty hefty, I've been trying

Re: [FRIAM] capitalism vs. individualism

Interesting article. I wonder, though, if what's "wrong" is not so much what's there, the thing being looked at, but more that/how we're looking at it. Because we're trying to unify this huge geographical region (and all the animals in it, all the microclimates in it, all the soil types, etc.)

[FRIAM] Better self phone plan deals?

Hi all my Tmobile plan at the moment is now at least 80 dollars. (it's unlimited data FWIW) . Thinking that's pretty hefty, I've been trying to find better deals and are frustrated at the lack of I've found. What are folks experience here? Comcast has been in the cellphone business for a while an

Re: [FRIAM] Setting up a new PC

@Nicholas Thompson As I've had both a:"I didn't backup in time(insert me babling incoherently" to "Thank god I did backup!" I used one called Hdclone: https://www.miray.de/download/hdclone.html When I last needed to use it (2017-2018) more or less decided that if I didn't remember what someth

Re: [FRIAM] culture vs things

lol so that! On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 11:23 AM Nick Thompson wrote: > G and M > > It's the hair. Oh, god, what's living in that HAIR> > > n > > Nicholas S. Thompson > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology > Clark University > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > ---

Re: [FRIAM] capitalism vs. individualism

Dave writes: < BTW, there was no implication that 'government should leave off ... and let the cattlemen solve it." What I did imply: "too many, if not most, government bureaucrats are arrogant, misinformed, if not outright ignorant, promulgators of rules and regulations that make sense only

Re: [FRIAM] capitalism vs. individualism

Glen writes: < And I've heard people talk about *engaging* with Trumpists and trying to tease apart whatever good or bad the ecology associated with Trump has done or not done. But I fail every time I try. How do you crack open that layered chitin an Ismist accretes around their self without

Re: [FRIAM] capitalism vs. individualism

On 11/11/19 10:40 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > Stopping behaviors that are counterproductive is different from promulgating > a prescriptive ideology. The point is to open up space for what might work, > and that which has yet to be falsified. The Trumpism behaviors are not drawn > from a comp

Re: [FRIAM] capitalism vs. individualism

Dave writes: < I find myself becoming increasingly petulant and angry, in all sorts of areas, not just politics, with people who are so absolutely certain that their interpretation of a complex data set is the ONE AND ONLY TRUTH. I believe, not know — not even think, but believe that such peop

Re: [FRIAM] culture vs things

G and M It's the hair. Oh, god, what's living in that HAIR> n Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ -Original Message- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of glen?

Re: [FRIAM] Setting up a new PC

Trust the backup software. If they missed any essential files, they would be out of business. --Barry On 11 Nov 2019, at 13:11, Nick Thompson wrote: Thanks, Barry, This is very helpful. Are there any programs that help you move the right stuff, or shall I just restore the back up to th

Re: [FRIAM] Setting up a new PC

Thanks, Barry, This is very helpful. Are there any programs that help you move the right stuff, or shall I just restore the back up to the new computer and trust that my back up software knows what it is doing. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Bi

Re: [FRIAM] Setting up a new PC

The last time I had to do this, I tried the following, and it worked moderately well. For any software that costs me money, I put the software license/serial/unlock code in my password manager (1Password). It helps also to try to make a list of the open-source software I’m using. The new com

Re: [FRIAM] capitalism vs. individualism

Dave writes: < The most distressing, to me, aspect of what is happening is that the discussion - rational on both sides, critical of both sides, has been reduced to a pretty much exclusive focus on one office and one individual. It is impossible to have an informative discussion about actions t

Re: [FRIAM] culture vs things

LoL! First laugh of the day. Thanks. On 11/11/19 8:15 AM, Merle Lefkoff wrote: Pinker is an idiot. Always has been. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://

Re: [FRIAM] culture vs things (was: capitalism vs. individualism)

Pinker is an idiot. Always has been. On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 9:13 AM glen∈ℂ wrote: > Yes! Along the same lines of communities policing themselves, pluralists > are at risk of runaway relativism. I was reading this article < > https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/nov/02/smashing-the-patriarchy

[FRIAM] culture vs things (was: capitalism vs. individualism)

Yes! Along the same lines of communities policing themselves, pluralists are at risk of runaway relativism. I was reading this article recently and was taken aback by this exc

Re: [FRIAM] capitalism vs. individualism

Schiff IS acting like a prosecutor. Unfortunately, in this day and age prosecution and defense in the criminal system has nothing to do with truth or with justice. Prosecutors, in general, and almost universally, do their best to paint the defendant as 100% evil with no mitigating circumstances

Re: [FRIAM] capitalism vs. individualism

Nick, The discussions I participated in concerned breeding alternatives (did you know that more than 90% of the dairy cows in the US today descend from exactly two bulls?) in order to enhance desired traits; and feed, natural and organic supplements but not pharmaceutical. I listened to one pr

Re: [FRIAM] capitalism vs. individualism

Mea Culpa - you are absolutely correct that the vegan straw man (pun kinda actually intended) was a silly thing to raise and makes me guilty of the same errors I chastise in others. It would be an interesting exercise to enumerate the actual individuals I am lumping into "They," but it would ha