Re: [FRIAM] Doxastic logic - Wikipedia

I live in space, I only work in doubt On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: > Dear Glen, > > > > I don't know why I am so pissed at Feynman right now but this quote: > > > > *"When you doubt and ask, it gets a little harder to believe. I can live > with doubt, and uncertaint

Re: [FRIAM] Doxastic logic - Wikipedia

Glen, See Larding below? Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ -Original Message- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of g??? ? Sent: Thursday, Septe

Re: [FRIAM] One more from the feeling awesome and inspired dept

I've heard of MathML having issues.. Do you know if something like webcompents+polymer or baking it into HTML might be next. And yeah Iike some things fire fox does over Chrome. History, addons. older browser versions. Wich is great. like if their's a gremlin in Acme's Latest. I can use Acme's Slig

Re: [FRIAM] Doxastic logic - Wikipedia

On 09/21/2017 04:50 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: > Well, answering in the sophistic manner, because logically speaking, acting > tentatively affirms tentativeness. You seem to forget that there are many types of logic, paraconsistent, defeasible, higher order, etc. > Is it possible (can you giv

Re: [FRIAM] Doxastic logic - Wikipedia

Glen, Well, answering in the sophistic manner, because logically speaking, acting tentatively affirms tentativeness. Let's me think about this for a moment. If acting and believing are inextricable then the following question becomes relevant. Is it possible (can you give me an example) o

Re: [FRIAM] The Atlantic article on "the illusion of reality"

Is this substantially different from modal realism? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modal_realism On 09/21/2017 03:54 PM, Russell Standish wrote: > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 10:44:51PM +, Marcus Daniels wrote: >> >> Isn't it plausible that there are different psychological laws in >> different bu

Re: [FRIAM] Doxastic logic - Wikipedia

You should get back to talking to your television! From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Roger Critchlow Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 3:04 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Doxastic logic - Wikipedia I believe you all have

Re: [FRIAM] The Atlantic article on "the illusion of reality"

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 10:44:51PM +, Marcus Daniels wrote: > > Isn't it plausible that there are different psychological laws in > different bubbles of the multiverse? Obviously. Differences in "laws" means they're not laws, of course, but geographical facts. > How would minds span the

Re: [FRIAM] Doxastic logic - Wikipedia

Thank you, Roger, for reading my mind. Hurry up and pack, Nick. I'm sure everyone misses you. On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote: > I believe you all have too much free time. > > -- rec -- > > > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 5:01 PM, Marcus Daniels > wrote: > >> Speaking for mys

Re: [FRIAM] One more from the feeling awesome and inspired dept

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 11:59:02AM -0600, Gillian Densmore wrote: > Going back over my weby-web basics...I seriusly don't recall when WebyWebs > got to having good support for SVG and PostScripts. That is so awesome. Is > that new to HTML5. Udacity sugests including them with Canvas something > ab

Re: [FRIAM] The Atlantic article on "the illusion of reality"

Russell writes: "One may categorise realism as the position that some things are and other things aren't. Roughly as a result of that, I argue in my book Theory of Nothing that Everythingism (ie everything exists in a Multiverse) entails anti-realism, ie that laws of physics must be grounded in

Re: [FRIAM] The Atlantic article on "the illusion of reality"

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 03:38:29AM +, Russ Abbott wrote: > Nick wrote, "the idea of a real world outside experience is nonsense" > > What does that say about areas of the universe or periods of the universe > that have no experiencing beings? > > Also, we synchronize our experiences so that w

Re: [FRIAM] Doxastic logic - Wikipedia

If you, as a non-dualist, allow for tentative action, why not allow for tentative belief? On 09/21/2017 02:20 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: > Peirce defined belief as that upon which we act and doubt as the absence of > belief. It follows logically that anything we act on affirms some belief > and,

Re: [FRIAM] Doxastic logic - Wikipedia

If I carry on for another 45 minutes it will be time to cook dinner and I cannot either pack or winterize for yet another day. May God have mercy on my soul. n Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University

Re: [FRIAM] Doxastic logic - Wikipedia

Thanks, Eric. Great as always to hear from you. One of the surest ways to avoid packing and winterizing a house is to make a dumb statement and then spend the next week defending it on a list-serv. I am not quite sure I am in that territory, yet, but I am entertaining doubts. As a behavioris

Re: [FRIAM] Doxastic logic - Wikipedia

I believe you all have too much free time. -- rec -- On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 5:01 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > Speaking for myself, I don’t hold A as an assumption. A is more like a > function parameterized on relevant conditions that computes an expected > value. Alternatively it could also

Re: [FRIAM] Doxastic logic - Wikipedia

Speaking for myself, I don’t hold A as an assumption. A is more like a function parameterized on relevant conditions that computes an expected value. Alternatively it could also be a predicate, but parameterized on some threshold of risk and/or reward. If snows a little, I just jump in the c

Re: [FRIAM] Doxastic logic - Wikipedia

Excellent digestion! I'll fully admit that my body has a kind of momentum. The running example is perfect. For the 1st mile (for certain), every breath and every step seems equivalently doubted, ungainly, awkward. As I literally force myself into the 2nd mile, I suspect my body changes. I b

Re: [FRIAM] Doxastic logic - Wikipedia

1. Empirical. 2. Freud is as close to God as early 20th century intellectuals can get. 3. Your rationalized procrastination makes sense to me. :-) Frank Frank Wimberly Phone (505) 670-9918 On Sep 21, 2017 2:46 PM, "Nick Thompson" wrote: > Ok. Self-reflection time. > > 1. Ah! Perh

Re: [FRIAM] Doxastic logic - Wikipedia

Ok. Self-reflection time. 1. Ah! Perhaps we ARE just quibbling about meanings. To what extent does action based on assumption, A, imply that at the moment of acting, one holds A as a belief? I seem to be claiming that it does so as a matter of logic; perhaps the rest of you think it i

Re: [FRIAM] Doxastic logic - Wikipedia

Somehow I imagine that Nick means to say there are costly signals in this game — that motor action is thicker than conversation or reflection. If I am walking across a snowfield that I know to be filled with crevasses, and I know I can’t tell which snow holds weight and which doesn’t, my movemen

Re: [FRIAM] Doxastic logic - Wikipedia

Time for an aphorism! The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. Bertrand Russell -Original Message- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of g??? ? Sent: Thursday, September 2

Re: [FRIAM] Doxastic logic - Wikipedia

No regrets or apology are needed. And even if we are about to "argue about words" ... I forget what famous dead white guy said that ... it's still useful to me. You say: "if one acts in the assurance that some fact is the case, one cannot be said to really doubt it" The answer is clarified by

Re: [FRIAM] Doxastic logic - Wikipedia

To me "metaknowledge" denotes knowledge about knowledge. For example, "I know 7,486 aphorisms". That's a false statement. Frank Frank Wimberly Phone (505) 670-9918 On Sep 21, 2017 2:25 PM, "Nick Thompson" wrote: > Hmm! > > I meant "meta knowledge" as knowledge of how to go about something gl

Re: [FRIAM] Doxastic logic - Wikipedia

Hmm! I meant "meta knowledge" as knowledge of how to go about something gleaned from watching others succeed and fail at it. Is that the same thing? n Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

Re: [FRIAM] Doxastic logic - Wikipedia

Glen, I apologize. My rhetorical manners are not in good order. I am being cranky. I am afraid this discussion is about to dissolve into a quibble about the meaning of the words "doubt" and "belief", but let's take it one more round. In my use of the words ... and I think Peirce's ... o

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It's strange. You speak about the way _you_ think and behave as if that's the way _I_ think and behave. Can we all say "vainglorously" together? 8^) I can tell you unflinchingly and honestly that I DO doubt that the floor is still under my feet when I put my legs out of the bed in the morning.

Re: [FRIAM] Doxastic logic - Wikipedia

There is nothing that infuriates me more than trying to solve a problem with/for someone is confident in their hypothesis for no reason other than a few past experiences. No we definitely can live with doubt. For goodness sake we have Donald as president.It is a personality disorder when

Re: [FRIAM] Doxastic logic - Wikipedia

Dear Glen, I don't know why I am so pissed at Feynman right now but this quote: "When you doubt and ask, it gets a little harder to believe. I can live with doubt, and uncertainty, and not knowing. I think it's much more interesting to live not knowing than to have answers which might b

Re: [FRIAM] Doxastic logic - Wikipedia

To clarify, I meant `meta-knowledge' in the sense of "Do I know what I know?" or "Do I know I don't know?" as opposed to the idea of drawing conclusions by studying other studies. Can one label their questions or propositions as vague or not vague.. -Original Message- From: Friam [m

Re: [FRIAM] Doxastic logic - Wikipedia

OK, you got me..  (as usual). I suppose I was speaking of how this particular Feynman Quote is (mis)used vs how the Dyson quote is (mis)used.   I wasn't responding to your elaboration in this case, nor presuming to know what either of them actually *meant*.   How is that for weasely? Thanks

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Heh, I'm on the side of people who refuse to take aphorisms seriously, no matter who coins them, repeats them, etc. Otto's reading Nietzsche is the perfect example. Attempts to be pithy only appeal to sloppy thinkers. I admit that inside jokes can be good and comforting, but ONLY when you're s

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Glen, This baffled me as much as it interested me. In the end, I wasn't sure whose side you were on. My problem may be that, being a Peircean, philosophy is for me just an extension of the scientific method and philosophical knowledge is just "meta-knowledge" gleaned from the same sources as

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Bah! Do you actually think Dyson's aphorism is in stark juxtaposition to Feynman's? I thought, by including so much of what Feynman said, it would be less likely anyone would read it wrong. But if you think Feynman was saying being vague is better than being wrong, you TOTALLY misunderstood w

Re: [FRIAM] Doxastic logic - Wikipedia

Good have the metaknowledge of vagueness and seek to reduce it. Like learning to avoid mistakes.. https://www.wired.com/story/the-education-of-brett-the-robot/ -Original Message- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Steven A Smith Sent: Thursday, September 21, 201

Re: [FRIAM] Doxastic logic - Wikipedia

Glen - in stark juxtaposition, we have Freeman Dyson saying:     "it is better to be wrong than vague" I think I know what he meant and generally support not getting frozen in inaction or muddying/qualifying a statement to the point of losing meaning. On the other hand, I find this quote (or

[FRIAM] One more from the feeling awesome and inspired dept

Going back over my weby-web basics...I seriusly don't recall when WebyWebs got to having good support for SVG and PostScripts. That is so awesome. Is that new to HTML5. Udacity sugests including them with Canvas something about compatability and fluidity/responsitveness. Either way that rocks roc

Re: [FRIAM] Doxastic logic - Wikipedia

A better Feynman quote that targets this issue is this one, I think from a BBC interview: "When you doubt and ask, it gets a little harder to believe. I can live with doubt, and uncertainty, and not knowing. I think it's much more interesting to live not knowing than to have answers which might

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Re: Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

Mmm Kona Koffe and Kava Coffe are indeed gloriusly awsome On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Steven A Smith wrote: > > > Mr. Coffee Gil - > > I usually make my coffee with folded filter paper in a beaker, pouring > through water just at the boiling point. I'm not terribly picky about my > coffee

[FRIAM] Fwd: Re: Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

Mr. Coffee Gil - I usually make my coffee with folded filter paper in a beaker, pouring through water just at the boiling point.  I'm not terribly picky about my coffee but I do enjoy the details of such a ritual and try to stay close to some optimum.  I think the common brand is "Chemex" (s

Re: [FRIAM] Fun facts about coffe

Gil- Adding to the wimsical side: http://www.minq.com/lifestyle/8913/19-coffee-hacks-that-every-coffee-drinker-has-to-know-immediately?fb_comment_id=659282570844212_812541528851648#f382a4af585002c Weird a small amount helps you process certain fats? oO  that's awesome! Great rundown on coff

[FRIAM] Fun facts about coffe

Adding to the wimsical side: http://www.minq.com/lifestyle/8913/19-coffee-hacks-that-every-coffee-drinker-has-to-know-immediately?fb_comment_id=659282570844212_812541528851648#f382a4af585002c Weird a small amount helps you process certain fats? oO that's awesome! =

Re: [FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

So I repeated Nicks experiment on the Densmore Coffe Effect (the one where some silly imp has some not the: run around the block or get inspired to do fun things.) I think Nich and steve are both right on this one. ^_^ Hmm so does adding water discourage sprites and dwarfs from creating a quatum

Re: [FRIAM] Doxastic logic - Wikipedia

It's definitely sage. But the sagacity doesn't hinge on the word "science", it hinges on the word _useful_. Science is often thought to be a body of knowledge. But there's a huge swath of people, me included, who think science is not knowledge, but a method/behavior for formulating and testin