Re: [FRIAM] the arc of ai (was Re: Whew!)

Until that robot can acquire the hockey stick and exercise its mirror neuron, the work must continue! From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 10:32 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] the arc

Re: [FRIAM] the arc of ai (was Re: Whew!)

I am risking citing authorities again. Marc Raibert left Carnegie Mellon, founded the Leg Lab at MIT, then founded Boston Dynamics. Raibert, Marc H. and Francis C. Wimberly. Tabular Control of Balance in a Dynamic Legged System. IEEE Transactions on Systems, Man and Cybernetics 14,

Re: [FRIAM] the arc of ai (was Re: Whew!)

I guess a measure of how life-like it is, is how much you are waiting for the robot to haul off and smack the guy with the hockey stick. Some kind of mirror neuron thing, maybe. > On May 9, 2017, at 12:06 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > > Glen writes: > > "At some point, wouldn't we enter David

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Bookstore Sale

Nick - Thanks for the left-handed invitation to Fridays with FriAm and the St. John's bookstore sale! If I were to be in town and were not in the final throes of packing up the last of what is shaping up to be nearly 6 cords of books (6x6x12) I would be tempted. I believe the relevant pa

[FRIAM] FW: Bookstore Sale

To the Local Congregation: Loading up on discounted books on Friday might be a [very subtle] way of expressing our gratitude for our being allowed to glut up the St. Johns coffee shop every Friday morning To the Diaspora: The St. Johns Book shop is a lovely, teensy book store with a long tabl

Re: [FRIAM] the arc of ai (was Re: Whew!)

Glen writes: "At some point, wouldn't we enter David Deutsch (or Neal Stephenson) territory? ... where the idea is that the computation in our nervous system is mappable to the computation going on around us" While Boston Dynamics has remarkable capabilities

Re: [FRIAM] Harvard

Gary - I went to a "Timber College" (Northern AZ) but the same holds for me... they could barely muster a BS program for Physics and I had to supplement my curiosity with graduate Math/Chemistry/Enginering courses while pursuing the Physics on my own and under the tutelage of my undergrad phy

Re: [FRIAM] the arc of ai (was Re: Whew!)

At some point, wouldn't we enter David Deutsch (or Neal Stephenson) territory? ... where the idea is that the computation in our nervous system is mappable to the computation going on around us. If consciousness isn't compressible because it's an artifact of that mapping, then faster neurons

Re: [FRIAM] the arc of ai (was Re: Whew!)

Seems to me there's a question of dynamic range, temporally speaking. In classical computers, that is dealt with by separating exponents and mantissas as in floating point arithmetic. If everything compresses by 7 order of magnitude, then perhaps it would just be a matter of adding 7 more digi

Re: [FRIAM] the arc of ai (was Re: Whew!)

What if faster firing tightened a brain's coupling to its environment, rather than loosening it? That would suggest that brains with fast neurons would be _less_ tolerant of ambiguity, not more. One couldn't think deeply about anything because the environment would keep you locked in a kind o

Re: [FRIAM] Harvard

This is mischaracterizing what was said. There was no disparagement. Not sure why this was raised again. From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Gary Schiltz Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 12:35 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ha

Re: [FRIAM] Harvard

It was called "dropping the H-bomb" a few years ago. (And I get the same question about my Berkeley days, Frank. ) Sent from my iPhone > On May 8, 2017, at 1:43 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote: > > As many of you are aware, during a discussion of the beverage tax I mentioned > that my wife studied a

Re: [FRIAM] Harvard

I didn't take part in the conversation Frank alludes to, nor do I want details about it, but I just want to say that it pisses me off that it has become politically correct to disparage folks who have done well for themselves and gone to good schools. I myself went to a state supported "cow college

[FRIAM] Harvard

As many of you are aware, during a discussion of the beverage tax I mentioned that my wife studied at the Harvard Graduate School of Education which stimulated a small discussion of argument by authority. During an in-person discussion at coffee there was a similar dynamic. I always wondered why

Re: [FRIAM] the arc of ai (was Re: Whew!)

Fantastic pattern recognition, Roger. We can combine anti-emminence-based concept of white privilege with Kazynski's (negative) interpretation of the more tightly integrated social fabric ("will have to be ever more reliable, conforming and docile, because they will be more and more like cells

Re: [FRIAM] the arc of ai (was Re: Whew!)

Glen writes: "Those of us who tolerate (especially drastic) semantic shifts, on the fly, may survive through any Singularity." A fun fact that I ran across last week: A superconducting neuron made of Josephson Junctions could be 7 orders of magnitude faster than those in the human central ne

Re: [FRIAM] the arc of ai (was Re: Whew!)

Harking back to an earlier complaint from Marcus about blatant and lazy appeals to authority, which may have been in another thread altogether, this http://andrewgelman.com/2017/05/07/discussion-lee-jussim-simine-vazire-eminence-junk-science-blind-reviewing/ introduced me to the formulation "emi

Re: [FRIAM] the arc of ai (was Re: Whew!)

Coincidentally, given the topic of [SG]AI and the semantic grounding of rhetorical terms: The meaning of life in a world without work https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/08/virtual-reality-religion-robots-sapiens-book?utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GU+Today+USA+-+Collec