Re: [FRIAM] Semipalatinsk and Los Alamos

We should also take into account the many Sandia scientists and technicians that were part of the Pacific tests. I don't know what has been documented about them but when I first moved to NM in the late 70's. I met a number of them. They all seemed to believe that many of their coworkers ha

Re: [FRIAM] Semipalatinsk and Los Alamos

The flight tests were mainly at Edwards Air Force Base in California's Mojave Desert, home of Chuck Yeager and "The Right Stuff." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwards_Air_Force_Base I imagine Soviet authorities frowned on any decadent capitalist attempts at portraying their secret cities and de

[FRIAM] Dennis Cox comments re researching YDB ice comet fragment air bursts, USGS geochronology database: Rich Murray 2010.10.12

Dennis Cox comments re researching YDB ice comet fragment air bursts, USGS geochronology database: Rich Murray 2010.10.12 http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2010_10_01_archive.htm Tuesday, October 12, 2010 [ at end of each long page, click on Older Posts ] http://groups.yahoo.com/group/astrodeep/messag

Re: [FRIAM] Semipalatinsk and Los Alamos

I didn't know that. It looks like the inhabitants of Las Vegas and Nevada should be much more affected by radiation than those of Los Alamos and New Mexico. Probably the drug wars in Juarez are a more severe threat today. Nevada, this is where the famous Area 51 is located, right? I guess the

[FRIAM] Linux Mint

Douglas I posted part of this lines in your blog at Linux Journal. I enhance it a little. I just installed Linux Mint 9 in my EeePC 701 replacing ubuntu 10-04. I'm pretty satisfied with Isadora (All Mint releases have had women names). Last weekend I tried to install several distributions and it o

[FRIAM] The 10 Best Literary Works - the envelope please!

What a terrific response! Thanks to everyone who shared their recommendations. I've closed the list because with 119 candidates we now can see 10 clear winners. Here are the top 10 Titles with Author and (No. of Recommendations) that were recommended 3 or 4 times. * Ingenious Hidalgo Do

Re: [FRIAM] Expertise, etcetera

A. That's talent. Nick -Original Message- From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Raymond Parks Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 2:46 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Expertise, etcetera Victoria

Re: [FRIAM] Semipalatinsk and Los Alamos

For Santa Fe/LANL local concerns and issues, see Concerned Citizens for Nuclear Safety (CCNS), http://www.nuclearactive.org/ , a good NGO that has been around for some time. Paul -Original Message- From: Alfredo Covaleda Vélez To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group

Re: [FRIAM] Semipalatinsk and Los Alamos

Jochen - Thanks for a very interesting (and I am sure, controversial) topic other than "what should I read over the winter?" or "why do I need a bleeping PhD?" (being one of the bigger contributors to both). Today, the people near Semipalatinsk still suffer from the effects of radiation, the

Re: [FRIAM] CUSF and Higher Educamacation in the City Different.

On 12 Oct 2010 at 13:45, Nicholas Thompson wrote: > The only question in my mind - and you raise many good challenges even to > the question - is: Would "we", whoever "we" is, be happier 25 years from > now, if there were a City University of Santa Fe offering graduate > education in the things

Re: [FRIAM] Semipalatinsk and Los Alamos

I was approximately 60 miles from Trinity Site in NM on that day in August 1945. So far, so good. Frank From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Scott R. Powell Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:42 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee G

Re: [FRIAM] Semipalatinsk and Los Alamos

At least by state, combined all cancer types, New Mexico has the lowest cancer incidence in US (2002-2006) . US cancer rate was 556,3/10 and New Mexico rate was 480.5/10 (2002-2006). Highest for the same period is Maine with 620.9 http://apps.nccd.cdc.gov/uscs/cancersrankedbystate.aspx

Re: [FRIAM] Semipalatinsk and Los Alamos

And maybe a couple of the Manhattan Project scientists. Jochen, only one weapon was ever detonated in New Mexico, in 1945. Many more were tested in Nevada in the 1950s and the fallout from those tests did cause cancers, notably leukemia, most visibly in Utah. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevada_T

Re: [FRIAM] Semipalatinsk and Los Alamos

Roger Critchlow wrote: > The principal nuclear bomb casualties in New Mexico, that I'm aware of, were > Navajo Uranium miners and their families. Also see _Inside_Box_1663_ by Eleanor Jette about the Manhattan Project and Los Alamos during WWII. Aside from her cat, the book suggests that there

Re: [FRIAM] Semipalatinsk and Los Alamos

The principal nuclear bomb casualties in New Mexico, that I'm aware of, were Navajo Uranium miners and their families. -- rec -- On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Jochen Fromm wrote: > Semipalatinsk in Kazakhstan was a primary testing area for the nuclear > weapons of the Soviet Union. It is sim

Re: [FRIAM] Expertise, etcetera

Victoria Hughes wrote: ... Instead, Dijksterhuis’ study suggests that the best > experts naturally depend on their unconscious mind, on that > subterranean warehouse of feelings, hunches and instincts" I know that's how I've always worked. I look at a system (people, processes, technology)

Re: [FRIAM] Software evolution storylines

Nice. Much more convoluted than GitHub charts, but very interesting. If we can apply this kind of interaction charts to movies, novels and software systems, then we can apply it in principle to any complex adaptive system (CAS), perhaps even to "psychological" systems. Maybe it is possible to des

Re: [FRIAM] Expertise, etcetera

This was a well known phenomenon for Knowledge Engineers (when expert systems were more visible in the mid '80s). There were several anecdotes: one was about the best performing pilots that went to Top Gun school and losing their edge because they had to repeatedly verbalize their knowledge t

[FRIAM] Semipalatinsk and Los Alamos

Semipalatinsk in Kazakhstan was a primary testing area for the nuclear weapons of the Soviet Union. It is similar to the Trinity Site (now the White Sands Missile Range) near Los Alamos and Santa Fe. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semipalatinsk_Test_Site Here the Americans set off their first at

Re: [FRIAM] Expertise, etcetera

Ran across an interesting article just now on this. Please note I am just adding this to the discussion, not using it as justification one way or the other. I do not have a PhD, have often toyed with getting one (in organizational psych) and have opinions on both sides of the issue. Real-wo

Re: [FRIAM] PhD vs Expertise

Nicholas Thompson wrote: ... > Whenever I give the elevator talk on CUSF I get three responses, > immediately: > (1)” Get back to me when you have 200 million dollars.” Get $200 million (or some reasonable amount). The Free University of Berlin got started with a Ford Foundation grant. Find (

Re: [FRIAM] CUSF and Higher Educamacation in the City Different.

Steve, Already operating in Santa Fe are a half a dozen organizations making use of the informally credentialed to teach the informally learning, if you see what I mean. They do it very well. These organizations might need to be encouraged, perhaps, coordinated, presumably, funded, conceivab

[FRIAM] Software evolution storylines

This will be of interest, I hope, to some of us following the "family-tree" of software linguistics. It's cude, but an interest start. http://flowingdata.com/2010/10/12/software-evolution-storylines/ -tom johnson FRIAM Applied Complex

Re: [FRIAM] PhD vs Expertise

Everybody, Sorry, by CUSF I meant www.cusf.org Nick From: Nicholas Thompson [mailto:nickthomp...@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 12:34 PM To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' Subject: RE: [FRIAM] PhD vs Expertise With his unerring ability to

Re: [FRIAM] PhD vs Expertise

With his unerring ability to skewer the question, Steve Smith wrote: "In Nick's case, I think that he has reasons for wanting PhD folks that transcend the question of whether a non-PhD could do the same job equally well or better. It slims his options down mightily. The folks I know of who

[FRIAM] CUSF and Higher Educamacation in the City Different.

Nick - Let me leaven any questions I might have stated about PhDs and higher education with an endorsement of your ideas and intentions regarding Santa Fe being a *good place* for people to be able to pursue a higher education. Many of us here are beyond caring about obtaining more credenti

Re: [FRIAM] vol 88, issue 12

On 12 Oct 2010 at 9:16, peggy miller wrote: > To Nick Thompson re "expertise" > > The ability to memorize and quote things is not, in and of itself, > expertise. It is simple a great ability to memorize. I don't think Nick said (or meant to say) that the fellow leading the Finnegans Wake group h

Re: [FRIAM] vol 88, issue 12

What, in heavens name, Peggy, led you to think I believed such a proposition? (Memorization = scholarship) Do you really think, knowing my writing on the list as well as you do, that I spent my 37 years teaching undergraduates to memorize? (I actually don't HAVE a memory.) You are, or course, on

Re: [FRIAM] Name this spider

Tyler, There is a nice word for your sensation, if you are willing to think of them as ants instead of spiders. Formication, from Latin Formica meaning ant, same root as formic acid, the main ingredient in most ant stings (the harmless one; it is the trace-level proteins that cause the persisten

[FRIAM] PhD vs Expertise

Peggy - I agree with the sentiment that having a PhD doesn't guarantee Expertise, having only a (pair of) BS degree myself and having learned a great deal (most?) of what I use to do my work in the school of hard knocks preceding and following (and paralleling) my formal education. But I don

[FRIAM] vol 88, issue 12

To Nick Thompson re "expertise" The ability to memorize and quote things is not, in and of itself, expertise. It is simple a great ability to memorize. -- Peggy Miller, owner/OEO Highland Winds Art, Photography, Herbs and Writings 406-541-7577 (home/office/shop) =