Re: [Freesurfer] vtkMultiThreader error

2009-06-08 Thread Martin Kavec
Hi Don, I am in a similar situation. I am on a IBM BladeCenter cluster (though with one blade only) with 2 Quad core Intels, and I experience intermittent crashes of mri_volmask as well. Similarly as you, when I run the mri_volmask on the crashed subject on a desktop, this passes perfectly fine

[Freesurfer] extracting bval and bvecs from Siemens trio DWI

2009-06-08 Thread raka maitra
Hello Doug The Siemen's Trio gives us Diffusion weighted images in the form of MR.10284.746.There are no extensions such as .dcm or .ima I can convert the dicom to nifti .nii format using SPM or FSL.But neither program extracts the bval or bvec information. I am working on Mac OsX 10.5 and am usi

[Freesurfer] Temporal lobe segmentation

2009-06-08 Thread Seyed Shahab Sharifi
Subject: Temporal lobe segmentation Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 17:40:21 +0100 Hi all, I am interested in automated segmentation of temporal lobe using freesurfer. I understand that it is possible to add up the individual regions of a specific lobe, create one massive label for that lobe,

Re: [Freesurfer] Temporal lobe segmentation

2009-06-08 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Seyed, I don't think there's any easy adding up of labels that gives you the temporal lobe, but Rahul and/or Christophe can correct me if I'm wrong. The easiest thing to do would be just draw the boundaries on fsaverage and map it to your subjects using mri_label2label. We should probably p

[Freesurfer] Color scale for the probability maps

2009-06-08 Thread Eylem Kirlangic
Hi, When I plot the probability maps, the color scale bar takes negative values too (e.g., setting the threshold min 0 max 0.5, you get a scale bar between -0.5 and +0.5). How can I change the color scale bar so that it shows percentages? Thanks! Eylem

Re: [Freesurfer] Color scale for the probability maps

2009-06-08 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Eylem, are you configuring it with the configure overlay window? If so, you should be able to enter 0 for the thresh and 1 for the max, and click "linear" to generate the same maps as the ones we published. You need to copy the label stats to an overlay first though (tools->label->copy labe

Re: [Freesurfer] Color scale for the probability maps

2009-06-08 Thread Eylem Kirlangic
Hi Bruce, That's exactly what I do. The maps do look nice, but the color scale bar does not. It is not a percentage scale, rather it takes a scale of -/+ max value (of course, a negative value does not exist on the probability map!!!). I think it is just about the options of the color scale b

Re: [Freesurfer] Color scale for the probability maps

2009-06-08 Thread Bruce Fischl
did you hit return when you typed in the 0/1 values? This is a tk thing - it won't take the values until you hit return. Then click apply and it should redraw with the new values On Mon, 8 Jun 2009, Eylem Kirlangic wrote: Hi Bruce, That's exactly what I do. The maps do look nice, but the colo

Re: [Freesurfer] Temporal lobe segmentation

2009-06-08 Thread rahul
Hi Seyed, As Bruce mentions, currently the best way to get a complete temporal lobe segmentation might be to add each of the invidual temporal lobe labels (using either of the two parcellation systems). With regards to your specific questions, 1) both of the parcellation atlases do a fairly good j

Re: [Freesurfer] Color scale for the probability maps

2009-06-08 Thread Eylem Kirlangic
I can change the values min and max in the configuration window, this changes the threshold and apllies to the map. I can observe these changes on the map, the scale bar changes accordingly, too. But, as I said, it is not a percental (%) scale bar, rather takes -/+ max value (which is input in

Re: [Freesurfer] Color scale for the probability maps

2009-06-08 Thread Bruce Fischl
I think for the pub it was 0-1, not 0-100. Can you generate that? On Mon, 8 Jun 2009, Eylem Kirlangic wrote: I can change the values min and max in the configuration window, this changes the threshold and apllies to the map. I can observe these changes on the map, the scale bar changes accord

Re: [Freesurfer] vtkMultiThreader error

2009-06-08 Thread Nick Schmansky
Don and Martin, I dont have a good solution for you to this problem. The error code indicates an 'out-of-memory' error returned by pthread_create, and I do know the mris_vol_mask uses a lot of memory (at least 1GB). I have not been able to find any clues to the source of this problem on the web

Re: [Freesurfer] Disentangling age effects

2009-06-08 Thread Douglas N Greve
mmoay...@uhnres.utoronto.ca wrote: Hi, I am studying two groups and have found that age is a confound (or is a covariate with an interaction between the two groups). Simply, when I correlate age between the two groups, there is an interaction (i.e., the slopes are different). My questions

[Freesurfer] Re: extracting bval and bvecs from Siemens trio DWI

2009-06-08 Thread Douglas N Greve
Just give it one file from the series you want to convert. doug ps Please consult surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting for suggestions on how to make bug reports. Thanks! raka maitra wrote: Hello Doug The Siemen's Trio gives us Diffusion weighted images in the form of

[Freesurfer] about ROI

2009-06-08 Thread Gabriel Go.Es.
hello freesurfers i have a doubt: i have convert a subject brainmask from freesurfer to nii and then i've convert a label that i create on freesurfer to *.nii using for registration the brainmask.mgz, i've made that for working in SPM, but when i open the ROI just not match with my subjec

[Freesurfer] Talairach coordinates

2009-06-08 Thread Rafa x
Dear Freesurfer team, I used the lh.inflated file in an average subject to obtain its vertex’s coordinates. My question is: What anatomical space or reference system was use in this file? or instead, How I could obtain the Talairach coordinates of each vertex? Thank you in advance, Rafa. _

Re: [Freesurfer] Talairach coordinates

2009-06-08 Thread Douglas N Greve
The coordinates are in mni305 space. If you load it into tksurfer, you can see both MNI305 and Talairach coords. The Talairach coords are based on a transform from MNI305 from Mathew Brett. doug Rafa x wrote: Dear Freesurfer team, I used the lh.inflated file in an average subject to obtain it

[Freesurfer] using cortical thickness values

2009-06-08 Thread Kai Lutz
Dear List, in an attempt to divide grey matter segments into an outer and inner layer, I am currently using the vertex coordinates for pial surface (in Matlab>> read_surf('lh.pial') ) and vertex coordinates for white matter surface (MATLAB>>read_surf('lh.white') ). Perhaps naively, I assume,

RE: [Freesurfer] vtkMultiThreader error

2009-06-08 Thread Don Hagler
Hi Nick, Thanks for the reply. I will look into the memory limit issue some more (we recently instituted per job memory limits), but I have done a test run with a 16GB memory limit (running one job per node). Meanwhile, thanks for the novtk suggestion. Our fallback option is to just disable

[Freesurfer] TAL QA check failed

2009-06-08 Thread Barnali Basu
Experts, I got the following error while running a subject with recon-all autorecon1 ERROR: Talairach QA check failed! z-score = -8 <= -4 = threshold Manual Talairach alignment may be necessary, or include the -notal-check flag to skip this test. See http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswi

[Freesurfer] mris_anatomical_stats

2009-06-08 Thread Kevin Scheibel
I am running mris_anatomical_stats and keep getting the same error. Here's the entire log file.looks like the big error happens at 'glibc detected' computing statistics for each annotation in /ifs/woods/scott_temp/kevin_work/freeseg/subj/078/label/rh.aparc.annot. outputting results to /ifs/tm

[Freesurfer] mri_glmfit significiance verification outside freesurfer

2009-06-08 Thread Jeff Sadino
Hello Surfers, I am trying to verify the p-value sig.mgh maps outputted from the mri_glmfit command as the first part of a more advanced analysis. We have been extracting the thickness data for a single vertex from each of our 58 subjects in two control groups and then running a significiance

Re: [Freesurfer] mri_glmfit significiance verification outside freesurfer

2009-06-08 Thread Nick Schmansky
Jeff, sig.mgh actually stores the -log10(p), not p, so to get the true p-value of say, -2 (in the sig.mgh), take 10^-2 (giving you the true p-value of 0.01). Nick On Mon, 2009-06-08 at 16:48 -0600, Jeff Sadino wrote: > Hello Surfers, > > I am trying to verify the p-value sig.mgh maps outputte

Re: [Freesurfer] mri_glmfit significiance verification outside freesurfer

2009-06-08 Thread Douglas N Greve
Also, p-values for t-tests are two-sided. Nick Schmansky wrote: Jeff, sig.mgh actually stores the -log10(p), not p, so to get the true p-value of say, -2 (in the sig.mgh), take 10^-2 (giving you the true p-value of 0.01). Nick On Mon, 2009-06-08 at 16:48 -0600, Jeff Sadino wrote: Hello

[Freesurfer] Brain cortical structures segmentation - comparison of hippocampal volumes

2009-06-08 Thread Flavio Seixas
My name is Flavio, student at Universidade Federal Fluminense. I research image segmentation methods applied to brain cortical structures segmentation. I've compared against the hippocampal region got from FIRST-FSL to Freesurfer, using the same magnetic resonance (MR) image. The FSL is a n

Re: [Freesurfer] mris_anatomical_stats

2009-06-08 Thread Nick Schmansky
Kevin, I've tracked down some memory trampling going on in mris_anatomical_stats, and posted a fixed version for linux x86_64 here: ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pub/dist/freesurfer/fixes/linux- centos4_x86_64 Nick On Mon, 2009-06-08 at 15:10 -0700, Kevin Scheibel wrote: > I am running mris_

Re: [Freesurfer] TAL QA check failed

2009-06-08 Thread Douglas N Greve
did the you look at the registration? Barnali Basu wrote: Experts, I got the following error while running a subject with recon-all autorecon1 ERROR: Talairach QA check failed! z-score = -8 <= -4 = threshold Manual Talairach alignment may be necessary, or include the -notal-check fla

Re: [Freesurfer] Brain cortical structures segmentation - comparison of hippocampal volumes

2009-06-08 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Flavio, 25% is pretty low. Can you send us an example image of our segmentation? cheers, Bruce On Mon, 8 Jun 2009, Flavio Seixas wrote: My name is Flavio, student at Universidade Federal Fluminense. I research image segmentation methods applied to brain cortical structures segmentation.

Re: [Freesurfer] TAL QA check failed

2009-06-08 Thread Barnali Basu
No. Do I need to look at it with tkregister? On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Douglas N Greve wrote: > did the you look at the registration? > > Barnali Basu wrote: > >> Experts, >> >> I got the following error while running a subject with recon-all >> autorecon1 >> >> >> ERROR: Talairach QA check

Re: [Freesurfer] TAL QA check failed

2009-06-08 Thread Douglas N Greve
Yea, as the error message says, you should check out the web page, it will give you all the instructions you need. doug Barnali Basu wrote: No. Do I need to look at it with tkregister? On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Douglas N Greve mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote: did the you

RE: [Freesurfer] mri_glmfit significiance verification outside freesurfer

2009-06-08 Thread Jeff Sadino
Hello Everyone, Thank you all for your replies. We converted the values into -log10(p) and accounted for two-tailed, but the values were still off, and they are not even off in any consistent pattern. For example: FS: .1541 .1109 .0749 .0641 .0514 .0281 .0182 .0141 .0132 .

Re: [Freesurfer] Brain cortical structures segmentation - comparison of hippocampal volumes

2009-06-08 Thread Pedro Paulo de Magalhães Oliveira Junior
I think FreeSurfer has more reliability. In houndreds of manually segmented hippocampi we found FreeSurfer measures to be pretty stable. the manually segmented hippocampi usually has 15% - 20% less volume. However we still don't know which method is more accurate. There's a study right now in USP

Re: [Freesurfer] Brain cortical structures segmentation - comparison of hippocampal volumes

2009-06-08 Thread Bruce Fischl
you also have to be careful of differences in definition (e.g. is the fimbria part of the hippocampus?) cheers, Bruce On Mon, 8 Jun 2009, Pedro Paulo de Magalhães Oliveira Junior wrote: I think FreeSurfer has more reliability. In houndreds of manually segmented hippocampi we found FreeSurfer

Re: [Freesurfer] Brain cortical structures segmentation - comparison of hippocampal volumes

2009-06-08 Thread Jamie Hanson
also of note, there are three recent papers comparing manual hippocampal tracing to freesurfer automated segments... Shen L, Firpi HA, Saykin AJ, West JD. (2009). Parametric surface modeling and registration for comparison of manual and automated segmentation of the hippocampus. Hippocampus. Jun;1

RE: [Freesurfer] mri_glmfit significiance verification outside freesurfer

2009-06-08 Thread Michael Harms
Those differences are much too large to be rounding errors. Are you sure that you are running identical models in mris_glmfit and SAS, and that the data that you are testing in SAS is in fact what is being processed in mris_glmfit (e.g., same degree of smoothing)? -Mike H. > > Hello Everyone, >

[Freesurfer] Stand processing prepared for longitudinal pipeline.

2009-06-08 Thread Hui Zheng
Hi, We are processing our data for the longitudinal pipeline. I found some subjects' brainmask with skull/dura remaining, and a portion of the skull was segmented as cortical gray matter in aseg. I'd like to ask if this kind of problem will affect the longitudinal registration/template creation?