Re: [Freesurfer] new eTIV calculation

2009-02-13 Thread Nick Schmansky
Chris, talairach_avi is a wrapper script around the registration tools created by Avi Snyder of Washington University, namely the tool imgreg_4dfp, which is the heart of talairach_avi. The wrapper script handles all the conversions (4dfp,t4 to mgz, concluding with the output of the talairach.xfm

Re: [Freesurfer] new eTIV calculation

2009-02-13 Thread bell0368
Nick, Just a clarification question. I read the wiki regarding the new eTIV and it says that the registration to $FREESURFER_HOME/average/711-2C_as_mni_average_305.4dfp.img is done with talairach_avi as opposed to imgreg_4dfp. I am guessing imgreg_4dfp is correct because the template has 4df

Re: [Freesurfer] new eTIV calculation

2009-02-13 Thread Nick Schmansky
Mike, Another piece of info: the talairach.xfm transform is a registration to an image _with_ skull, to this image: $FREESURFER_HOME/average/711-2C_as_mni_average_305.4dfp.img The utility imgreg_4dfp is used to perform this registration. So the eTIV should not be as subject to changes due to at

Re: [Freesurfer] new eTIV calculation

2009-02-12 Thread Nick Schmansky
Mike, I've updated our wiki page with most of this info: http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/eTIV This update, and most of the stats backing it, was done by Martin Reuter here at the NMR Center. The wiki page shows the difference in variability between the old way of calculating it (talair

Re: [Freesurfer] new eTIV calculation

2009-02-12 Thread Michael Harms
Nick, This is great -- you probably also noticed that the version of the transform used (without or with skull) can make a big difference in the computed scale factor. Was variability assessed by comparing eTIV values computed from multiple MR sessions from the same subject? Or by comparison to

[Freesurfer] new eTIV calculation

2009-02-11 Thread Nick Schmansky
If you make use of the estimated Total Intracranial Volume (eTIV) calculation found in the aseg.stats file of your subject data, then you should be aware that we have recently found a more accurate way to make this calculation. We have found that using the talairach.xfm transform instead of the ta