Re: [Freesurfer] insula on medial surface

2014-08-09 Thread Christophe Destrieux
Cc: "Ron KILLIANY" Envoyé: Vendredi 8 Août 2014 18:04:06 Objet: Re: [Freesurfer] insula on medial surface Hi, In response to Christophe's question, I looked at the two other whole brain parcellation schemes -- DKTatlas40 and a2009s. In those two subjects at least, that me

Re: [Freesurfer] insula on medial surface

2014-08-08 Thread Harms, Michael
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Re: [Freesurfer] insula on medial surface

2014-08-08 Thread Harms, Michael
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Re: [Freesurfer] insula on medial surface

2014-08-07 Thread Christophe Destrieux
NY" Envoyé: Jeudi 7 Août 2014 22:18:49 Objet: Re: [Freesurfer] insula on medial surface I'm not itching to re-process this data so I like that explanation as well. I think my main concern is that that bit of insula label seems somewhat arbitrary and inconsistent, in that some subjects

Re: [Freesurfer] insula on medial surface

2014-08-07 Thread Harms, Michael
I'm not itching to re-process this data so I like that explanation as well. I think my main concern is that that bit of insula label seems somewhat arbitrary and inconsistent, in that some subjects have this bit of medial tissue labelled as insula, whereas others don't. (Even within the same sub

Re: [Freesurfer] insula on medial surface

2014-08-07 Thread Bruce Fischl
I see. So maybe it is correct then? On Thu, 7 Aug 2014, Harms, Michael wrote: > > Yeah, it is labelled as "Cerebral-cortex" in the aseg.mgz, and is just > medial to the "Accumbens" label. > > -- > Michael Harms, Ph.D. > > --- > Conte Center

Re: [Freesurfer] insula on medial surface

2014-08-07 Thread Harms, Michael
Yeah, it is labelled as "Cerebral-cortex" in the aseg.mgz, and is just medial to the "Accumbens" label. -- Michael Harms, Ph.D. --- Conte Center for the Neuroscience of Mental Disorders Washington University School of Medicine Department of

Re: [Freesurfer] insula on medial surface

2014-08-07 Thread Bruce Fischl
wow, I like that answer much more than "it's a bug"! Can we go with Paul's explanation? Bruce On Thu, 7 Aug 2014, Paul Beach wrote: I asked a neuroanatomist and insula expert on my campus about this a while back and this was his response: "This is the region of the "limen insulae" that you w

Re: [Freesurfer] insula on medial surface

2014-08-07 Thread Bruce Fischl
so that region really is cortex? It's not filled in ventricle or anything? On Thu, 7 Aug 2014, Harms, Michael wrote: > > Yeah, the insula label is present medially when viewed on the white > surface as well, so its not just a quirk of the inflation. > > Not sure if I follow what you mean by the "

Re: [Freesurfer] insula on medial surface

2014-08-07 Thread Harms, Michael
Yeah, the insula label is present medially when viewed on the white surface as well, so its not just a quirk of the inflation. Not sure if I follow what you mean by the "aseg looking right". The aparc+aseg.mgz is actually where the RA first noticed the issue, since she noticed that some of the v

Re: [Freesurfer] insula on medial surface

2014-08-07 Thread Paul Beach
I asked a neuroanatomist and insula expert on my campus about this a while back and this was his response: "This is the region of the "limen insulae" that you will remember Dr. Heimer referring to often in the brain dissection course. The insula is defined as cortex which is covered by a lid of ot

Re: [Freesurfer] insula on medial surface

2014-08-07 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Mike I'm not sure - I think the insula was an additional label that Ron Killiany added. I'll cc Ron to see if he has any insight. It certainly looks too medial to me. I would also check on the white surface just to make sure that it's not a quirk of the inflation. If the aseg looks right