I have an accounting app from the early 90s. I first ran it under DRDOS
and then FreeDOS for about a decade. I have looked at many other
accounting apps but have not found anything that works better for me.
The primary functions have always worked well. However, a couple years
ago the archiv
From: Ray Davison
I have an accounting app from the early 90s. I first ran it under DRDOS
and then FreeDOS for about a decade. I have looked at many other
accounting apps but have not found anything that works better for me.
The primary functions have always worked well. However, a couple
A small side trip about real work in real DOS.
Since Win2K, my desktops have had a 2G, FAT16 primary at the front of
the first HDD, carrying DOS and a boot manager, and two Win partitions,
both logicals. Every other partition is a logical. Using that layout I
am now running FreeDOS 1.1 and W
This is CHKDSK beta 0.9.1
If there is a sub-directory present on a floppy, CHKDSK report seems
normal. If there is no sub-directory - whether or not there are files:
"Assertion failed: size, file bitfield.c, line 34
Abnormal program termination"
Is this to be expected?
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Karen Lewellen wrote:
> A question mainly for those who use dos alone and purely on your
> machines. I am asking how you do large backup work yourself now? say
> 3 gig or so?
I have a couple suggestions for your consideration.
First, anyone who is doing anything serious with a PC needs this:
htt
James Hahn wrote:
> Hello Ray,
>
> Thanks for sharing pictures of your setup. It's a real fascinating
> setup. Other than a duplicating machine, what function does it serve
> while connected to your network?
It is primarily a storage box. In it's normal mode it has one boot/app
drive, three st
Mark LaPierre wrote:
> Hey Y'all,
>
> Does FreeDOS provide support for USB ports?
The DFSee boot CD runs FreeDOS. It can access thumb drives and USB
connected HDDs.
Dies that prove anything where you are concerned?
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Karen Lewellen wrote:
> Hi folks,
> Asking for the person still doing that Dr dos 703 thing.
> What is the largest drive capacitor for the current edition of freedos?
There has been much discussion regarding which DOS might do what on
which machine. Actually determining which will actually work
Single Stage to Orbit wrote:
> On Sun, 2012-11-11 at 16:36 +0100, Bernd Blaauw wrote:
>> I remember the old days of having 4 (primary? extended? logical?)
>> FAT16 partitions of 2GB each, allowing up to 8GB total.
>
> I remember using 32MB partitions :-)
>
My first HDD was 28M, and I created three
A little background. My first PC ran DOS 3.3 on a 28M HDD that I broke
into three partitions, all primaries. Since the extended came out every
machine I have had has had a single primary - 2G or less, Fat 16 - with
one or more installs of DOS and maybe Win9X. The rest of the drive, and
any o
FreeDOS 1.1
I an loading usbuhci and usbdrive with LH. They both load low.
They create eight drive letters, none of which show the plugged in device.
The current test device is a 1G thumb drive. Do the drivers have a max
size?
I am using the included drivers. I have the drivers from the Joh
sakura kinomoto wrote:
>
> Can anybody write customisable software, for "selecting colors " for
> dos? for example, yellow-on-blue or white-on-black, or (excellent)
> with changeable colour scheme?
PRISM from 1990. Create color profiles. Call a different profile for
each app.
As I recall it co
Is there something like this in FD?
IF NOT EXIST X:\ZZZ MD X:\ZZZ
Everything in front of the MD is ignored, and there is an error if
X:\ZZZ does exist.
TY
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Eric Auer wrote:
>
> Yes of course: Type "if /?" to see how it should work.
I wondered thru the batch area but did not try that.
>
> IF NOT EXIST X:\ZZZ\NUL MKDIR X:\ZZZ
OK that works.
TY
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Is it possible to load an exe file system driver in dconfig.sys?
I have a DOS HPFS driver that works OK, but I would like it to get a
drive letter before the DVDs.
What is available for reading NTFS used in WXP, W7?
TY
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> Is it possible to load an exe file system driver in dconfig.sys?
>
> I have a DOS HPFS driver that works OK, but I would like it to get a
> drive letter before the DVDs.
>
> What is available for reading NTFS used in WXP, W7?
Let me explain the actual tas
dmccunney wrote:
>> Oh by the way if you want to install XP on FAT32, it will work without being
>> activated.
>
> XP on FAT32?
Why the shudder? I have never run WXP on anything but FAT32. Currently
it is on four machines in the office plus whatever is in the shop. It
is a matter of cross
Create boot floppy;
Bad command or file name - "I:\FreeDOS\3rdParty\extract"
FAT12
System transferred
Floppy no-boot.
Install to HDD;
Reboot
After "boot from CD", blinking cursor at left margin
Ideas?
TY
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Ray Davison wrote:
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> Install to HDD;
> Reboot
> After "boot from CD", blinking cursor at left margin
I chose selection 1, copy DOS to MBR - or some such.
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Rugxulo wrote:
>
> In other words, what specifically are you trying to do? What files do
> you need on there? What machines / environments are you trying to use?
I use a floppy to boot a machine for maintenance and occasionally to run
SYS from. All I need FreeDOS to put on there is KERNEL and C
Jim Hall wrote:
What do you think?
I see two disks and an archive.
My primary word processor and accounting programs are DOS. Yes I have
"modern" versions for those functions, but I do not consider them to be
improvements. It is extra work to chase stuff around a screen.
So what you cal
Jerome Shidel wrote:
To create a custom CD for each user who downloads FreeDOS is not practical.
Where in all this discussion did anyone suggest "a custom CD for each
user"? In my scheme the system would only have two ISOs: the basic, and
a TBD "extras". The user would create his own custo
I will keep DOS running primarily for accounting and word-processing,
because none of the "modern" apps have given me reason to change.
However, I have about fifteen linear feet of software and third party
books that I may have used but mostly acquired because I thought it
might be useful some
What about Win 3 stuff?
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Oh and adapters for small devices like laptops, with software to
configure them.
I had a DOS LAN. The cards and disks are here, somewhere.
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I also have my first seven PCs. They start at AT.
28Meg, double height HDD.
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I have posted pics of some stuff.
The last pic is two trays of a couple hundred Software of the Month Club
disks - mostly 5.25 and the last few are 3.5, freeware, category general
interest.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/aTdSyfEHbbdhKkxV7
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Joao Silva wrote:
Hello.
I have to agree that a GUI mnakes life a bit easy when envolving a tyask
with a lot of files.
I disagree. You want to copy, move or delete files or whole trees? A
two panel, filemanager like Norton Commander and it's clones. Move - on
the same HDD, and I believe
Hi Eric:
One of your pictures shows MagnaRAM:
How did you like it, in Win3 / Win95 actually?
I doubt that I ever installed it. Like I said, a lot of that stuff was
acquired because it looked like it might be useful. Most I ever got
around to playing with.
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Eric Auer wrote:
Did you try to google for "freedos numlock"?
... duckduckgo does not find that page.
Better get a barge pole, because DuckDuckNoGo won't find jack **t...
To join that little off-topic: Is there ANY search
engine remaining which RESPECTS my search keywords?
This is at th
I am maintaining several machines that do serious work on FD. For
several years they have all had FD 1.1. I just installed 1.2, basic,
over 1.1 on one machine. FD seemed to install OK, and took over booting
the partition as expected. FD 1.2 seemed to load OK. I then
reactivated the boot ma
Rugxulo wrote:
The 1.2 kernel has been renamed and moved,
I get "Can't load operating system. Press to reboot..."
Presumably just rename the kernel to "KERNEL.SYS" first. But you may
have to update the boot sector name, too (use SYS or maybe WDE).
What about the KERNEL location in the t
Liam Proven wrote:
This BM and many versions of DOS go way back.
*What* boot manager? I have not seen you specify it.
The only one I know of that name came with OS/2 and is about 25-30
years old, and TBH I would not expect it to work well on modern kit.
Acronis OS Selector V 5.0 2001 (OSS).
[GlassNerves] via Freedos-user wrote:
Using only one HD, is this possible or can cause some conflit?
You all work much too hard. When things were in transition I had
multiple DOS as well as "DOS based" Win all on a single 2G FAT 16 at the
front of the drive.
You just need a real boot mana
Ray Davison wrote:
[GlassNerves] via Freedos-user wrote:
Using only one HD, is this possible or can cause some conflit?
You all work much too hard. When things were in transition I had
multiple DOS as well as "DOS based" Win all on a single 2G FAT 16 at the
front of the drive.
Gerry Hickman wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Maybe I'm missing something, but isn't WfW a different operating system
> with it's own bootsector and startup files? You've then got the HIMEM,
> EMM386 and IFSHLP to worry about.
>
> Isn't it a bit like saying "why can't I start OS/2 from within CP/M?"
No, it i
Ray Davison wrote:
>
> No, it is just a shell. I don't use it any more but I still have the
> batch file to run it. In one of my older machines it was run from
> autoexec.bat. The line is still there but remed.
I moved from MSDOS to DRDOS when V6 came out and never used MSD
Gerry Hickman wrote:
>
> OK, let's agree it's just a shell for a minute; why would anyone want to
> start it from within FreeDOS?
First, do you actually except that you cannot boot any Win 3x, including
3.11. You have to boot something else first and then run Win 3x as an
app. People who wer
Tonny Sapri wrote:
> after i booting from freedos,can i install windows
> 98SE on freedos platform?
For about a decade every one of my machines has had at least one version
of DOS and Win9X on a C: FAT16 primary. On some systems I have had
multiples of each OS. It is easy with a real boot mana
My questions are general but were prompted by _d32.rar.
Why the underline at the front on the name?
Can you point me to an unrar utility that will work with DOS or OS\2. I
have tried several and gotten nowhere. I can see the directory but
cannot read or extract any of it.
TY
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I just downloaded and burned FDFULLCD.ISO. I installed it on a rather
old machine: 1G P4. I have trouble getting any DOS to boot on some late
model machines.
Bootable CD install stops at "Configuring through DHCP".
Someone else complained about this last November. I don't find a response.
H
I just downloaded and burned FDFULLCD.ISO. I installed it on a rather
old machine: 1G P4. I have trouble getting any DOS to boot on some late
model machines.
Bootable CD install stops at "Configuring through DHCP".
Someone else complained about this last November. I don't find a response.
H
Eric Auer wrote:
> Then it tried to download further updates but failed to
> communicate with your ADSL router or similar device.
Could it have reasonably been expected to succeed?
If so, how to make it work.
>
>>How can I determine what did not get installed because of this?
>
> I think the w
I have 1.0 CD and boot floppy. I cannot find a SYS.COM. I found the
DOCs for it on the CD. Where is the file?
TY
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Is anyone current on what is available for operating system selection?
For years I used VCom System Commander, up to SC 2000. When that had
trouble with OS/2 on some hardware I went to Acronis OS selector V5. I
now have 8, 9 and 10. They do not seem to understand booting a
partition that is
FreeDOS 1.0 CD
Page says;
Wattcp.cfg Setup Menu
It hangs at:
Configuring through DHCP...
I would skip this section if I knew how.
Ideas?
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Still grepping through log file
Ray Davison wrote:
> FreeDOS 1.0 CD
>
Also, the make boot floppy item, didn't. It just took a readable disk
and made it unreadable. The disk was in A:, and it complained that it
couldn't read old info off B:
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>
> This happens because you selected a package which tries to
> use the internet to download further files.
TY. If install is unable to create an Internet connection, why does it
try to use one? The machine was physically connected to the router at
the time.
The install see
I have always had a single primary C for DOS and W9X, and everything
else extended. W2K then puts it's boot files on C. That can cause
problems trying to restore the W2K partition from backup.
So I created the drive below. I am sure it will wrap. Sorry.
The labels include the drive letters,
Eric Auer wrote:
> Hi, maybe it is useful to try SYS CONFIG to switch
> the DLASORT option to 0 or 1. Please read the docs,
> to be more exact, the config.txt file :-) Probably
> still does not behave as DR DOS, but I do remember
> that DLASORT is there because some people were not
> happy with the
chris evans wrote:
> Better to label your drive volumes to something other than obscure or
> drive letters, like DATA, or your name. that way when you in a fdisk
> program or other OS you can see what is what and not cause an
> accident. Curious, I thought that the DOS will only point C: to the
>
Aitor Santamaría wrote:
>>
>>It seems you're using some some oldish image-reader software...
>
> MS - Internet Explorer...
>
It looks fine in Mozilla.
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Eric Auer wrote:
>
> Oops sorry I mean sys.txt, not config.txt ...
OK. There is also SYS.EN.
The only SYS I know about is SYS.COM. I have been trying;
C:\FDOS\BIN\sys.com dlasort=X
Is this correct, and if so where do I put it? So far all I have gotten
is a SYS help screen.
>
>>Do you unders
FreeDOS 1.0
CAD locks the system, but does not reboot. It does it every time. Once
I got a "illegal something...". The rest had no indication on screen.
Is this to be expected?
TY
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Eric Auer wrote:
>
> Yes, known bug of that version of emm386. You either
> have to use the altboot option of emm386 or update it
> to jemm386 from japheth.de which you should probably
> do anyways
JEMM386 says it needs XMM. I did nothing but sub JEMM386 for EMM386.
Seems Ok; slightly more fre
Norton Disk Doctor from W2K says C: is OK.
FreeDOS chkdsk c: produces a 40K file. All entries are: file has an
invalid size.
The only chkdsk bug I find is 1954.
The problem stated in 1954 does not appear here.
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The file I had was: 3 July 06 35380
File produced: 40290
The new file is: 3 July 06 92376
File produced: 40382
Same complaints. Here is a sample.
\KERNEL.SYS has an invalid size, the size should be about 4294901760,
but the entry says it's 45341
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Ray Davison wrote:
> The file I had was: 3 July 06 35380
> File produced: 40290
> The new file is: 3 July 06 92376
> File produced: 40382
> Same complaints. Here is a sample.
> \KERNEL.SYS has an invalid size, the size should be about 4294901760,
> but the entry says it&#
Ray Davison wrote:
chkdsk beta 0.9.1 works on A, C and D - the only FAT16 on this machine.
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Boot screen says: DOSLFN 0.40c
Kernel is 20 Sept 07
Neither NC or VC 4.05 or DIR display LFNs.
What am I missing?
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Robert Riebisch wrote:
> Ray Davison wrote:
>
>> Boot screen says: DOSLFN 0.40c
>> Kernel is 20 Sept 07
>> Neither NC or VC 4.05 or DIR display LFNs.
>
> Don't know about NC, but only VC 4.99.08 supports LFN.
>
> You can also try
> <http://www
If you want to boot multiple OSs you should get real boot manager. For
years I ran System Commander. A couple years ago that started having
problems with OS/2 on some mother boards. Since then I have been using
Acronis OS Selector. It will run as many versions of DOS and W9X on a
single C p
J wrote:
> Any data recovery programs recommended or that I should avoid (i.e.
> might make the situation worse)?
The first place I would post such a question is here:
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DFSee can do some amazing things with partition tables and contents.
And the author is there to help, includin
I did a HDD installation excepting the suggestions of the install
routine. That seems to work. Then I made a boot floppy from the HDD
installation. I used the same directory structure, changed the drive
letters, and deleted some stuff from autoexec.bat. Based on directory
dates it appears I
bwspos wrote:
> Had this the other day - removing TUNS from LBACACHE should fix it
> and,no, I don't know why.
I removed "TUNS". It now boots OK. And mem /c says the following is in
conventional - upper, everything else has zero conventional. I am left
with 608,554 (594K).
SYSTEM 10992 - 6
Ray Davison wrote:
> SYSTEM 10992 - 6352
> HIMEM 2704 - 0
> COMMAND 3024 - 624
I just noticed a MEM /c I ran on that HDD Feb 2008. Why do the
available memory start out differently. There is small difference in
total RAM size, but by then doesn'
Eric Auer wrote:
> Try if updating LBACACHE helps:
>
> www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/lbacache/2008/
>
Lbacache.com 6 Apr 2008; no apparent change if still without TUNS.
With TUNS
Jemm386: exception 06 ... CS:EIP=33FA:05C6
esc
Continues to boot, Lbacache now has 40
I just noticed SHCD does not see the SATA optical. Is this to be expected?
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Ray Davison wrote:
> I just noticed SHCD does not see the SATA optical. Is this to be expected?
There is a PATA optical that is OK.
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drives, but did not see any existing LFN. I tried creating one, and it
truncated to 8.
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Blair Campbell wrote:
> DOSLFN is the more-or-less official LFN driver for FreeDOS.
Got it. It is not clear to me how much of what is in the ZIP needs to
be in the run directory.
Can you suggest an execute line?
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Blair Campbell wrote:
> extract doslfn.com (or exe) and the .cp? I can't remember the
> extention but there's a few codepage tables afair that the extension
> begins with .cp
How about cp*.tbl?
> Those need to go in the bin directory.
I assume you mean C:\FDOS\BIN
>
> Then lh doslfn should do
Eric Auer wrote:
> Hi!
>
>> I just noticed a MEM /c I ran on that HDD Feb 2008. Why do the
>> available memory start out differently. There is small difference
>> in total RAM size, but by then doesn't DOS not care?
>
>>SYSTEM 17,344 (17K) 10,992 (11K) 6,352(6K)
>>
Is there a DOS UNRAR somewhere I can get at? Every link I try, even tho
it says DOS, takes me off into WinLand. This one looked hopeful, it
mentioned FreeDOS, but is dead.
http://www.bttr-software.de/misc/urar377d.zip.
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Ray Davison wrote:
> Eric Auer wrote:
>
>> Try if updating LBACACHE helps:
>>
>> www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/lbacache/2008/
>>
> Lbacache.com 6 Apr 2008; no apparent change if still without TUNS.
Same lbcache, no TUNS, when I try to co
Eric Auer wrote:
> Hi!
>
>> I just noticed SHCD does not see the SATA optical.
>> Is this to be expected?
>
> I assume you try using SHSUCDX for SATA CD or DVD
> drives? No problem for SHSUCDX (which creates a
> drive letter from the raw data) but your low level
> driver (to access raw data) mus
Any more thoughts on this?
Ray
Ray Davison wrote:
> Eric Auer wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>>> I just noticed a MEM /c I ran on that HDD Feb 2008. Why do the
>>> available memory start out differently. There is small difference
>>> in total RAM size, but b
Michael Reichenbach wrote:
> Do you know any DOS drivers for SATA controllers / harddisk?
I have a machine that is using UIDE.SYS to access a SATA CD/DVD. I
don't currently have a SATA HDD in a machine but I have a SATA HDD in a
USB box that I could pull and plug in to a desktop machine.
Ray
Eric Auer wrote:
>> Ages ago there where some discussions about DOSzilla (Mozilla Firefox
>> for DOS) but the project was never released and is dead.
>> Firefox for DOS would be a killer application, pretty cool.
>
> I remember the suggestion coming in from time to time but I also
> remember the i
Travis Siegel wrote:
> there's very little that I can't access due to lack of flash support.
Keep looking. It is getting to be more all the time. And it is
content, not just adds. And some sites that worked fine with version 5
apparently had nothing better to do and "upgraded" to later versi
Is no one else running DOS on late model machines to do actual work. My
primary machines now are Pentium D. With a mix of PATA and SATA. I
have rather recent suites from Corel and M$. But my word processor of
choice is still WP 6.2a DOS. My accounts payable program was written in
1995. On
I just got a replacement laptop.
I have a 1.0 CD and a 1G, USB, thumb drive that brings up what looks
like the same menu as the CD. Both try to load XCDROM and report "No
CD-ROM to use". Of course the CD had to use the CD drive to get to that
point.
Any idea what is going on?
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Eric Auer wrote:
> Suitable drivers: xcdrom for ATAPI, gcdrom or uide
> or xgcdrom for S-ATA.
>
> Check http://rugxulo.googlepages.com/ for a mirror of XGCDROM
> and other useful updated free DOS software :-).
The CD/DVD drive is SATA.
I do not find any reference to xqcdrom on that page or in
Eric Auer wrote:
> Drivers like gcdrom alone only give low-level CD/DVD, no ISO9660.
The CD/DVD is SATA. Since I didn't find xgcdrom I tried gcdrom. Seems
to work. What benefit would I see with xgcdrom?
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Eric Auer wrote:
> Hi!
>
>>> Drivers like gcdrom alone only give low-level CD/DVD, no ISO9660.
So apparently the ISO9660 file system is becoming common and older
drivers won't work, true?
>
> Xgcdrom is xcdrom (ATAPI) and gcdrom (S-ATA) combined into
> one driver, so you can use both types of C
ramin wrote:
> Hi I saw that it was possible to run freedos from a usb.
I have two thumb drives that I cloned from a boot floppy with the HP
utility. On my laptop - which has no A: - they both work, but one boots
as A: and the other as C:. I am going to keep the A:.
Ray
IHPFS.EXE seems to work. It has a provision for selecting drive letter.
However, the HPFS partition is located amongst FAT 16&32 partitions
whose drive letters are assigned during config.sys load. Can I load it
in config.sys or somehow reserve/assign the drive letter that represents
the pla
The boot process identifies all the HDD partitions then:
Incorrect DOS version
Bad or missing Command Interpreter: command.com /P /E:256
Enter .
Suggestions?
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Ray Davison wrote:
> The boot process identifies all the HDD partitions then:
> Incorrect DOS version
> Bad or missing Command Interpreter: command.com /P /E:256
> Enter .
The floppy had a 2003 Command.com. The bat went looking for a copy of
command.com on the HDD and that is w
Bernd Blaauw wrote:
>>
> How was the bootdisk created?
The included bat. See my previous post where I described the fix.
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Alain Mouette wrote:
> Tom Ehlert escreveu:
>> unlikely. while O/UHCI is certainly fast enough for
>> keyboards/mice/printers(?), noone want to have different USB ports in
>> he same computer
>
> Ok
>
>> plug your USB stick/external disk/DVD-ROM into an OHCI/UHCI port,
>> and you will be VERY dis
I just defraged C:, and now executing attrib - with or without
parameters - yields;
SYS0318: Message file OSO001.MSG cannot be found for message .
Why?
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Felix Miata wrote:
>
> As long as some type of boot manager is employed to choose among installed
> operating systems, both DOS and Linux are totally competent to coexist on one
> computer system.
Hi Felix:
The only time I ever got Linux to install on a drive that already had an
OS, it only ins
Alain Mouette wrote:
> The RTL8139D is very nice.
>
> the only problem is that there has been some fakes around :(
>
> Alain
>
> Buzzer escreveu:
>> Could anyone advice me best network adapter which are able to work
>> under FreeDOS?
>>
>> 1) Intel 82559 PCI
>> 2) RTL 8139 PCI
I load a Realtek RTL
I recently swapped my wife's CRT for a used 20", IBM ThinkVision. The
image is shifted up about an inch which puts a pull-down bar off-screen.
Win and eCS (OS/2) are OK.
Ideas?
Ray
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Felix Miata wrote:
> On 2010/01/18 15:00 (GMT-0800) Ray Davison composed:
>
>> I recently swapped my wife's CRT for a used 20", IBM ThinkVision. The
>> image is shifted up about an inch which puts a pull-down bar off-screen.
>> Win and eCS (OS/2) are OK.
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Ray Davison wrote:
>
> So far I have not found such a button, and Google is no help.
OK, OK, so there is a button. And it even works.
Thank you all
Ray
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