Re: [Freedos-user] Make sure your opinion is heard

I was thinking something along these lines. There could be a "Classic" install option which installs only the same components offered by MS-DOS, and a "Modern" option which has the same content, but with significant components swapped out for their more modern alternatives - e.g. a newer text ed

Re: [Freedos-user] Make sure your opinion is heard

Hello Jerome, Some random additional thoughts, I guess some times there was a little confusion with the 1.2 release over a FULL install. Maybe a good way would be to call a "FULL minus EXTRA" install by a less confusing name? E.g. perhaps call it a "RICH" install or something along those

Re: [Freedos-user] Make sure your opinion is heard

That subject line is just asking for a lot of traffic! I am a DOS user in current operations (wordstar, Foxpro, others).  My thought about asking for a survey,etc. is that it should come from the "mgmt" of the FreeDOS organizaton.  That way those of us that are not involved in the decisions of

Re: [Freedos-user] Make sure your opinion is heard

This is such an interesting discussion. Granted my quick check of the survey was a bit of a mess. still I have a question / comment as someone who uses DOS exclusively, but who has not installed freedos on a machine due to a couple of factors. I resonate with the freedos is open source concept.

Re: [Freedos-user] Make sure your opinion is heard

On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 09:36:29PM +0100, Eric Auer wrote: > > Yes, but for starters the "modest" programming languages could be included: > > GW BASIC, 2-3 Forth compilers (they're tiny in size), C--, XPL0 etc. If I'm > > Nobody programs useful stuff with GW BASIC, C-- or XPL0. I meant LEARNING

Re: [Freedos-user] Make sure your opinion is heard

Hi, Some random additional thoughts, I guess some times there was a little confusion with the 1.2 release over a FULL install. Some thought it installed absolutely everything on the disc. But, that was not the case. There was over 400mb of packages not included by FULL. Those were the EXTRA

Re: [Freedos-user] Make sure your opinion is heard

Hi ZB, > Yes, but for starters the "modest" programming languages could be included: > GW BASIC, 2-3 Forth compilers (they're tiny in size), C--, XPL0 etc. If I'm Nobody programs useful stuff with GW BASIC, C-- or XPL0. Even with Forth, useful stuff is not written on DOS. If you want modest, t

Re: [Freedos-user] Make sure your opinion is heard

Hi Tom, > On Dec 4, 2020, at 1:08 PM, tom ehlert wrote: > >> Are you happy with what software is included with FreeDOS? > > you are mixing up "FreeDOS" with "FreeDOS setup 1.x” > […] > insofar your attempt to discuss what should be "FreeDOS" is welcome. > it just comes a little bit late. I d

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On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 08:59:03PM +0100, Eric Auer wrote: > > Maybe, but 90% of FreeDOS users don't need programming languages > > Well it is open source, so it is good to show users > what coding can mean ;-) Yes, but for starters the "modest" programming languages could be included: GW BASIC,

Re: [Freedos-user] Make sure your opinion is heard

Hi! > Maybe, but 90% of FreeDOS users don't need programming languages Well it is open source, so it is good to show users what coding can mean ;-) But what you mean is the BASE install: Indeed that should be similar in size to old MS DOS distros, only a few megabytes, just the features of DOS

Re: [Freedos-user] Make sure your opinion is heard

On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 08:26:46PM +0100, Eric Auer wrote: > > "FreeDOS installation has to fit standard 650 MB CD" > > Even then I disagree. While you could fill entire DVD with > stuff for DOS, a FreeDOS CD could be a lot smaller That's why I meant 650 MB CD, not 4 GB DVD. > Just the 3 most c

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Freedos is open source. Everyone has the privilege of creating as many forks as desired. It ain't a big deal. Al On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 1:09 PM tom ehlert wrote: > > Are you happy with what software is included with FreeDOS? > > you are mixing up "FreeDOS" with "FreeDOS setup 1.x" > > there w

Re: [Freedos-user] Make sure your opinion is heard

On 12/4/2020 10:42 AM, ZB wrote: Why petabytes? I believe there could be "sane boundary" established; for example: "FreeDOS installation has to fit standard 650 MB CD". This sounds rather insane to me, considering that MS-DOS/PC-DOS fit on 3 or 4 floppy disks. Just saying. There have been f

Re: [Freedos-user] Make sure your opinion is heard

Hi! > "FreeDOS installation has to fit standard 650 MB CD" Even then I disagree. While you could fill entire DVD with stuff for DOS, a FreeDOS CD could be a lot smaller if you omit a few, but huge packages. For example DJGPP can be a reasonable number of megabytes, but you can also fill the who

Re: [Freedos-user] Make sure your opinion is heard

On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 07:08:03PM +0100, tom ehlert wrote: > luckily for "FreeDOS", developement has stalled. > otherwise "FreeDOS" would be PetaBytes to download. Why petabytes? I believe there could be "sane boundary" established; for example: "FreeDOS installation has to fit standard 650 MB C

Re: [Freedos-user] Make sure your opinion is heard

> Are you happy with what software is included with FreeDOS? you are mixing up "FreeDOS" with "FreeDOS setup 1.x" there was a lot of FreeDOS going on before this (IMO insane) FreeDOS 1.0 release. xyzDOS used to be mostly equivalent to be our "BASE" with few additions. at some point, someone d

[Freedos-user] Make sure your opinion is heard

Are you happy with what software is included with FreeDOS? Are there packages you feel don't always need installed? Make sure your voice is heard. Visit the Package Survey https://fd.lod.bz/survey Even if you don’t want any changes or to leave a comment, you can