Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.

2007-06-13 Thread kd4d
Florian Xaver escreveu: > > Why does most people like GRUB? I don't like it. :-) I think, there are > > many better boot-managers. >I can answer for myself: I don't like it, I just have in in my machine ;-) > >Let me explain: I use Mandrive Linux which just give me 2 choices: Lilo >or Grub. Unl

Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.

2007-06-12 Thread Johnson Lam
On Sat, 09 Jun 2007 01:38:30 +, you wrote: >I like the open source program GAG for this. It doesn't require a partition >and I find it MUCH easier to set up and configure than GRUB. It isn't >quite as pretty, but you only see it for a few seconds. Thanks Mark. Still using your multi-OS boot

Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.

2007-06-12 Thread ice
On Sat, 9 Jun 2007, Florian Xaver wrote: > Why does most people like GRUB? I don't like it. :-) I think, there Because it is small, simply and efficiently. -- ice <0x696365*gmail,com> - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2

Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.

2007-06-12 Thread Alain M.
Florian Xaver escreveu: > Why does most people like GRUB? I don't like it. :-) I think, there are > many better boot-managers. I can answer for myself: I don't like it, I just have in in my machine ;-) Let me explain: I use Mandrive Linux which just give me 2 choices: Lilo or Grub. Unless I w

Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.

2007-06-12 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-06-09, Florian Xaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why does most people like GRUB? Because it was easier to use than LILO. > I don't like it. :-) I think, there are many better > boot-managers. Possibly. Grub inherited the "standard Linux bootloader" crown from LILO, so there are a lot

Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.

2007-06-09 Thread Florian Xaver
Why does most people like GRUB? I don't like it. :-) I think, there are many better boot-managers. Bye On Sat, 09 Jun 2007 03:38:30 +0200, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I like the open source program GAG for this. It doesn't require a > partition > and I find it MUCH easier to set up and con

Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.

2007-06-08 Thread kd4d
I like the open source program GAG for this. It doesn't require a partition and I find it MUCH easier to set up and configure than GRUB. It isn't quite as pretty, but you only see it for a few seconds. gag.sourceforge.net Mark -- Original message -- From: "Jim

Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.

2007-06-08 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-06-08, Alain M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Grant Edwards escreveu: >> (now all I have to do is figure out how to fix that damned >> caps-lock key...). > > What do you want to do? I want it to be a control key. I'm pretty sure that keyb can do that, but I'm still reading through all of

Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.

2007-06-08 Thread Florian Xaver
XOSL is very good, has a very nice GUI... the only problem is, that it must have a FAT16/32 partition, BUT... after some years I decided to create an extra small partition for boot managers. It is saver ;-) Bye Flo On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 17:27:49 +0200, Robert Riebisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w

Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.

2007-06-08 Thread Alain M.
Grant Edwards escreveu: > (now all I have to do is figure out how to fix that damned > caps-lock key...). What do you want to do? Alain - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE vers

Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.

2007-06-08 Thread Robert Riebisch
Jim Hall wrote: > The open source ($0) XOSL does this too, I think. As you mentioned, > so does GRUB. ...or try http://www.bttr-software.de/bootmgr/ ;-) Robert Riebisch -- BTTR Software http://www.bttr-software.de/ - This

Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.

2007-06-08 Thread Jim Hall
You can do this with any sufficiently-capable boot manager. I used to use V Communications' "System Commander", once upon a time. Don't know if it's still available. Used to be fairly cheap: about $40 (US). There are probably lots of other commercial utilities you can find at a Best Buy or simi

Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.

2007-06-08 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-06-08, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2007-06-08, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Almost none of the other DOS software I've installed is working >> (a sh/ksh clone, a bunch of Unix utilities, etc.). > > Doh! I botched one step of the install process for the sh

Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.

2007-06-08 Thread Alain M.
> Did 98SE and ME come out about the same time? No > I don't think > that Windows ME has support for real mode dos. Yes it has. but there is a patch for 98 like boot. Alain - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Expres

Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.

2007-06-08 Thread Alain M.
>> Install Freedos on the second primary >> partition. > > Yep, that's what I should have done. The HOWTO sure gave the > imporession that it would automagically share a parition. I'll > probably jsut shrink the FreeDOS FAT partition and dual-boot > Linux. It's easy on Linux, special

Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.

2007-06-08 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-06-08, someone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Windows ME is a strange beast. Seems it failed miserably. > Nice thing about Windows ME was that it doesn't require > validation like XP does. When I finally gave up on WinMe, I switched to Win2K instead of XP for precisely that reason. > Did

Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.

2007-06-08 Thread Wesley Parish
On Friday 08 June 2007 18:50, someone wrote: > Windows ME is a strange beast. Seems it failed miserably. > Nice thing about Windows ME was that it doesn't require > validation like XP does. It must only be about 7 years old, > but there's no support for it. Just as well perhaps, seems > like Win

Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.

2007-06-08 Thread chris evans
t Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2007 10:50:12 PM Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable. Windows ME is a strange beast. Seems it failed miserably. Nice thing about Windows ME was that it doesn't require validation like XP does. It must only be about 7 years old, but

Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.

2007-06-07 Thread someone
Windows ME is a strange beast. Seems it failed miserably. Nice thing about Windows ME was that it doesn't require validation like XP does. It must only be about 7 years old, but there's no support for it. Just as well perhaps, seems like Windows ME had an identity crisis. It wasn't exactly do

Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.

2007-06-07 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-06-08, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Almost none of the other DOS software I've installed is working > (a sh/ksh clone, a bunch of Unix utilities, etc.). Doh! I botched one step of the install process for the shell and utils (the TMP env variable wasn't pointing to a directo

Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.

2007-06-07 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-06-07, chris evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> 3) Two crashes in the first two minutes: >>No crashes since the re-install. My conclusion is that FreeDOS >>can't easily share a parition with Win9x. > > Real mode msdos was discontinued in WinMe/NT/2k/XP. The problm > I had when installin

Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.

2007-06-07 Thread Eric Auer
Hi someone, Grant, there is no need to use separate partitions or even harddisks for Win9x/Me and FreeDOS. The trick is that both use FAT and both use the same drive letters, but Win9x/Me and FreeDOS use different file names for kernel and config. FreeDOS looks at fdconfig dot sys first, and only

Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.

2007-06-07 Thread chris evans
> 3) Two crashes in the first two minutes: >No crashes since the re-install. >My conclusion is that FreeDOS can't easily share a parition >with Win9x. Real mode msdos was discontinued in WinMe/NT/2k/XP. The problm I had when installing freedos on an existing win partition is that it had tendancy

Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.

2007-06-07 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-06-07, someone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BTW: Hard drives are cheap these days, consider installing > Windows 9x and Freedos on separate physical hard drives > and using a drive tray to switch back and forth at least > during the setup stage. It's a laptop, and the h

Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.

2007-06-07 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-06-07, Jim Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For freemacs/emacs, set the EMACS environment variable to point to > where emacs .ed files are installed. There aren't any .ed files -- not that I can find, anyway. Once I get some real file utilities installed (e.g. a proper "find") maybe I'll

Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.

2007-06-07 Thread someone
On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 15:50 +, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2007-06-06, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I tried to install FreeDOS 1.0 folling the HOWTO and it appears > > to have failed rather miserably: > > > > 1) The HOWTO says it will create a boot menu that will allow > > me

Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.

2007-06-07 Thread Jim Hall
For freemacs/emacs, set the EMACS environment variable to point to where emacs .ed files are installed. For example: SET EMACS=C:\FDOS\EMACS It's possible this didn't get set for you. Alternatively, try doing a CD into the directory where emacs is installed, and see if it runs (it should). -jh

Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.

2007-06-07 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-06-06, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I tried to install FreeDOS 1.0 folling the HOWTO and it appears > to have failed rather miserably: > > 1) The HOWTO says it will create a boot menu that will allow > me to dual-boot. It didn't. I can no-longer boot WinMe. I wiped the

[Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.

2007-06-06 Thread Grant Edwards
I tried to install FreeDOS 1.0 folling the HOWTO and it appears to have failed rather miserably: 1) The HOWTO says it will create a boot menu that will allow me to dual-boot. It didn't. I can no-longer boot WinMe. 2) No editors. emacs can't find it's .ed files, and none of the "vi" c