Re: [Freedos-user] FDAPM slow turbo c 2.01 down

2014-06-30 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Zbigniew wrote: > 2014-06-30 19:19 GMT+02:00, Rugxulo : > >> IIRC, 4DOS can swap out (since it's quite large) to conserve >> conventional memory. You may have to change that setting (SWAPPING ?? >> I forget ...). I don't think it's something inherently wrong

Re: [Freedos-user] FDAPM slow turbo c 2.01 down

2014-06-30 Thread dmccunney
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Zbigniew wrote: > 2014-06-30 19:19 GMT+02:00, Rugxulo : > >> IIRC, 4DOS can swap out (since it's quite large) to conserve >> conventional memory. You may have to change that setting (SWAPPING ?? >> I forget ...). I don't think it's something inherently wrong with >

Re: [Freedos-user] FDAPM slow turbo c 2.01 down

2014-06-30 Thread Zbigniew
2014-06-30 19:19 GMT+02:00, Rugxulo : > Hi, > > On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Zbigniew wrote: >> >> No, no such exotic options, > > Well, I would maybe recommend "I=TEST X=TEST". I used - and still use - exactly the two above. > IIRC, 4DOS can swap out (since it's quite large) to conserve > c

Re: [Freedos-user] FDAPM slow turbo c 2.01 down

2014-06-30 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Zbigniew wrote: > > No, no such exotic options, Well, I would maybe recommend "I=TEST X=TEST". > and using JEMM386 didn't help Again, I think it's better to LOAD and UNLOAD from cmdline (JEMM386) when needed to avoid such problems. > - but I located the p

Re: [Freedos-user] FDAPM slow turbo c 2.01 down

2014-06-29 Thread Zbigniew
2014-06-29 21:16 GMT+02:00, Rugxulo : > I don't know which versions exactly, but AFAIK, Turbo C tries to use > EMS by default (if found) but not XMS (without some cmdline switches). > So who knows if it's getting confused here. Remember that 32 MB of EMS > is a lot (to it)! > > Are you using any s

Re: [Freedos-user] FDAPM slow turbo c 2.01 down

2014-06-29 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Zbigniew wrote: > 2014-06-29 15:25 GMT+02:00, Mateusz Viste : > >> I am not sure it's related to the XMS manager you use. > > Unfortunately, it seems to be related. > >> It's rather a matter of the amount of conventional memory you have. > > No, it was what I

Re: [Freedos-user] FDAPM slow turbo c 2.01 down

2014-06-29 Thread Mateusz Viste
Strange then. Maybe Jemmex provides more memory overall, but it's fragmented for some reasons? MEM should tell you the size of the longest contiguous block in memory ("largest executable block size" IIRC). Mateusz On 06/29/2014 03:45 PM, Zbigniew wrote: > 2014-06-29 15:25 GMT+02:00, Mateusz V

Re: [Freedos-user] FDAPM slow turbo c 2.01 down

2014-06-29 Thread Zbigniew
2014-06-29 15:25 GMT+02:00, Mateusz Viste : > I am not sure it's related to the XMS manager you use. Unfortunately, it seems to be related. > It's rather a matter of the amount of conventional memory you have. No, it was what I checked first before posting. > Maybe when using > XMGR you end up

Re: [Freedos-user] FDAPM slow turbo c 2.01 down

2014-06-29 Thread Mateusz Viste
I am not sure it's related to the XMS manager you use. It's rather a matter of the amount of conventional memory you have. Maybe when using XMGR you end up with more free memory < 640K than when using Jemmex? Mateusz On 06/29/2014 03:20 PM, Zbigniew wrote: > What I also noticed, Turbo C 2.01

Re: [Freedos-user] FDAPM slow turbo c 2.01 down

2014-06-29 Thread Zbigniew
What I also noticed, Turbo C 2.01 doesn't like JEMMEX - while having around 32 MB of EMS and 1 GB of XMS, I cannot switch to shell from its IDE; it complained: "not enough memory, press Esc". No such problem when using XMGR instead of JEMMEX. -- Z. ---

Re: [Freedos-user] FDAPM slow turbo c 2.01 down

2014-06-18 Thread Zbigniew
2014-06-19 1:05 GMT+02:00, Louis Santillan : > The uide drivers gets updated rather frequently. Find the latest here < > http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/ellis> Well I used the latest one - and it turned out, that older uide2.sys is more "Turbo C compatible" than newest

Re: [Freedos-user] FDAPM slow turbo c 2.01 down

2014-06-18 Thread Louis Santillan
The uide drivers gets updated rather frequently. Find the latest here < http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/ellis> On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Zbigniew wrote: > I noticed another issue while using Turbo C 2.01: > > If in the fdconfig.sys there is uide.sys used (or

Re: [Freedos-user] FDAPM slow turbo c 2.01 down

2014-06-18 Thread Zbigniew
I noticed another issue while using Turbo C 2.01: If in the fdconfig.sys there is uide.sys used (or uide2.sys used for HDD) - the compilation is incredibly slow (100x or 200x times slower). But it is enough to _not_ use this driver, or to use uide2.sys with parameter like "/D:CDROM", to have Turbo

Re: [Freedos-user] FDAPM slow turbo c 2.01 down

2014-05-23 Thread Yanjun Yang
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > Hi! > >> After a fresh install of FreeDos, I found turbo c 2.01 is terribly slow to >> run. > > That depends on what you mean by Turbo C. The IDE (editor) of it? > Compiler? Some program written in Turbo C? What kind of program? I meant the T

Re: [Freedos-user] FDAPM slow turbo c 2.01 down

2014-05-23 Thread Eric Auer
Hi! > After a fresh install of FreeDos, I found turbo c 2.01 is terribly slow to > run. That depends on what you mean by Turbo C. The IDE (editor) of it? Compiler? Some program written in Turbo C? What kind of program? > even the speed of scrolling the screen is unacceptable. However, > when I

[Freedos-user] FDAPM slow turbo c 2.01 down

2014-05-23 Thread Yanjun Yang
After a fresh install of FreeDos, I found turbo c 2.01 is terribly slow to run. even the speed of scrolling the screen is unacceptable. However, when I unloaded FDAPM, turbo c became normal. Is there any work around? Is it a bug in Turbo C or in FDAPM? --- Pluto -

[Freedos-user] fdapm and dpakbd aware programs

2012-03-29 Thread Marcos Favero Florence de Barros
Hi Eric, > > Do you mean, authors making their programs FDAPM aware? > No I mean making FDAPM aware of the programs... Exactly > the same way as your "DPAKBD" is aware of your programs, > without having to change your programs, as I understood. That would be great! And, Yes, you underst

Re: [Freedos-user] fdapm and dpakbd aware programs (no subject)

2012-03-29 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Marcos, >> another chance would obviously be making fdapm aware :-) > > Do you mean, authors making their programs FDAPM aware? No I mean making FDAPM aware of the programs... Exactly the same way as your "DPAKBD" is aware of your programs, without having to change your programs, as I unders

[Freedos-user] FDAPM-awareness ... again

2012-03-29 Thread Marcos Favero Florence de Barros
Hi, For about a year I have been using only programs which either are natively FDAPM-aware, or can become so with help of a TSR. I just don't *like* CPUs running at 100% capacity when all we need is 2% or less, especially in notebooks with their tiny, hard-to-reach cooling fans. The TSR I curren

Re: [Freedos-user] FDAPM

2011-10-09 Thread Ulrich Hansen
Am 09.10.11 02:21, schrieb Jack: > Absolutely NO "self respecting" computer, or computer program, > should at-all REQUIRE using "FDAPM" or any equivalents! What > has happened to Industrial RESPONSIBILITY, i.e. making systems > that RUN, WITHOUT requiring such "Band Aid" power software??!! > > In

[Freedos-user] FDAPM

2011-10-08 Thread Marcos Favero Florence de Barros
Hi Jack, > Absolutely NO "self respecting" computer, or computer program, should > at-all REQUIRE using "FDAPM" or any equivalents! What has happened > to Industrial RESPONSIBILITY, i.e. making systems that RUN, WITHOUT > requiring such "Band Aid" power software??!! Agreed -- they should indeed

Re: [Freedos-user] FDAPM

2011-10-08 Thread Jack
I run a 15-year-old Windows/NT V4.0, "backed up" (and restored occasionally!) by a 17-year-old V6.22 MS-DOS. My system is a "flat" desktop (not a "tower") with its power-supply fan and a 13-CFM extra fan, thanks to my old 85-watt AMD 2100 CPU. TOO MUCH, so now I have a 45 watt AMD 3000+, which

Re: [Freedos-user] FDAPM

2011-10-08 Thread Ulrich Hansen
Am 08.10.11 19:54, schrieb Rugxulo: >> It would be really good if a helpful FreeDOS developer could add FDAPM >> awareness to more important programs in FreeDOS. > I assume the shell would benefit from this the most, if not already. The shell has no problem. CPU usage is normal (4%) if FDAPM is r

Re: [Freedos-user] FDAPM

2011-10-08 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 2:25 AM, Ulrich Hansen wrote: > > It would be really good if a helpful FreeDOS developer could add FDAPM > awareness to more important programs in FreeDOS. I assume the shell would benefit from this the most, if not already. Other stuff? Dunno, probably less benefit as

Re: [Freedos-user] FDAPM

2011-10-08 Thread Ulrich Hansen
Am 08.10.11 06:59, schrieb Marcos Favero Florence de Barros: > FDAPM is *very* effective, but softwares must be FDAPM-aware. > > DosZip is FDAPM-aware and will typically use only 2% of CPU time, > provided it is configured for that. Go to the Setup, System Options > menu and chech the "Use DOS Idl

[Freedos-user] FDAPM

2011-10-07 Thread Marcos Favero Florence de Barros
Ulrich Hansen wrote: > I had time to work with freedos in virtualbox the last two days. I > experienced some odd overheating problems. The Macbook Pro I used was > getting hot at the bottom and shut down automatically. > It seems that FreeDOS grabs all the CPU power it finds. The Activity > Monito

[Freedos-user] FDAPM in notebooks

2011-02-02 Thread Marcos Favero Florence de Barros
Hi Eric, Rugxulo, Short answer: CPU idle ratio is still (reported as) about 50% on notebooks. Now the details. >> (Me:) >> Texts (mainly Aurora editor), databases (DataPerfect), >> spreadsheets (SuperCalc). > (Eric:) > Interesting, I know none of those :-) Aurora and DataPerfect are truly rema

Re: [Freedos-user] FDAPM in notebooks

2011-02-01 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On 2/1/11, Eric Auer wrote: > >> Texts (mainly Aurora editor), databases (DataPerfect), >> spreadsheets (SuperCalc). > > Interesting, I know none of those :-) I'm sure you've heard of Aurora. >> BUFFERS=4 > > A bit more might be good. Not needed if using UIDE as cache (see below). >> DEVI

Re: [Freedos-user] FDAPM in notebooks

2011-02-01 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Marcos, > Texts (mainly Aurora editor), databases (DataPerfect), > spreadsheets (SuperCalc). Interesting, I know none of those :-) > Pentiums, year 1995-2000, CPU speeds > 133-333 MHz, memories 96-128 MB. > BUFFERS=4 A bit more might be good. > DEVICE=C:\FDOS\JEMM\JEMFBHLP.EXE FB as in f

[Freedos-user] FDAPM in notebooks

2011-01-31 Thread Marcos Favero Florence de Barros
Hi Eric, Robert, and others, > what do you usually do on the desktops and notebooks? Texts (mainly Aurora editor), databases (DataPerfect), spreadsheets (SuperCalc). > Please tell us a little more about the specs of the > notebooks / desktop. Pentiums, year 1995-2000, CPU speeds 1

Re: [Freedos-user] FDAPM in notebooks

2011-01-31 Thread Robert Riebisch
Marcos Favero Florence de Barros wrote: > Is there something that must be configured differently in notebooks > to achieve higher CPU idle times? Please tell us a little more about the specs of the notebooks / desktop. Does this also happen with a clean boot (no drivers loaded)? Robert Riebisch

[Freedos-user] FDAPM in notebooks

2011-01-31 Thread Marcos Favero Florence de Barros
Hi, In my desktop computers, FDAPM usually reports very high percentages of CPU idle time. For instance, with the Aurora editor, which I use for hours every day, a typical figure is 98-99% of idle time. However, in both my notebooks (IBM ThinkPad and Compaq Armada, from 1999) this number is usua

Re: [Freedos-user] (fdapm vs idlehalt performance and energy saving in dos)

2009-12-29 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Marcos, thanks for the in-depth measurements :-) >1 FDAPM APMDOS + IDLEHALT=1 11 sec >2 FDAPM ADV:REG + IDLEHALT=1 6 sec >3 FDAPM APMDOS 6 sec >4IDLEHALT=1 6 sec >5 FDAPM ADV:REG

Re: [Freedos-user] fdapm...

2008-06-23 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Blakeslee, standby is mostly APM based, but if your PC likes ACPI better than APM, then you should try the following: Make sure wake-on-lan is enabled in your BIOS / CMOS setup and use FDAPM POWEROFF to switch off your PC. It should be possible to wake up from there via WoL. > ... to standby

[Freedos-user] fdapm...

2008-06-21 Thread Blakeslee T
Hi all, Newbie here. I have been trying find a way to change the power state of some of our pc's at work to standby or s3 I think is what I need. So that they will be ready to receive and respond to WOL packets. I tried fdapm and saw the standby option but in my newbieness couldn't figure out how t

Re: [Freedos-user] fdapm speed# not working for me

2008-01-26 Thread Fabien Meghazi
> So far, only two things worked for me: > - using the "throttle" tool (http://www.oldskool.org/pc/throttle/DOS), > - disabling my processor's cache (there's a CPUCACHE program somewhere... just > google after it... or disable your cache right in the BIOS). I already tried throttle and it didn't w

Re: [Freedos-user] fdapm speed# not working for me

2008-01-26 Thread Mateusz Viste
On Saturday 26 January 2008, Fabien Meghazi wrote: > So I played a little with fdapm speed<1-8> and it just have no effect > ! Or if there's an effect, it's unnoticeable. So far, only two things worked for me: - using the "throttle" tool (http://www.oldskool.org/pc/throttle/DOS), - disabling my p

[Freedos-user] fdapm speed# not working for me

2008-01-26 Thread Fabien Meghazi
Hi all, I would like to know what could be the reasons why fdapm speed# won't work for me ? Is it a bios problem ? Should I change something in bios settings ? I really need to slow down my cpu for some old softwares, and I first tried software based cpu killer (residents) such as moslo, ... but

Re: [Freedos-user] FDAPM

2007-12-26 Thread Blair Campbell
FDPKG basically replaces FDPM On 7/7/07, Florian Xaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > how is the status of this package manager tool > (http://fdpm.sourceforge.net/): It seems to work now? > > Btw: There should be a big link at FreeDOS homepage I think. I have > seen the great package manag

Re: [Freedos-user] fdapm update and a new screen saver

2007-07-16 Thread Eric Auer
Hi again, I updated FDAPM again. Changed since 15jul: IDLEDPMS is now smaller in RAM (< 1/2 kb) and avoids double-loading. If you try to load it twice, you get a message. There is also a tiny change in VBE/PM handling. Of course there are also the old news from 15jul: Fixed the stats used for "C

[Freedos-user] fdapm update and a new screen saver

2007-07-15 Thread Eric Auer
Hi all, after a bug report from Mateusz, I fixed an error in the way FDAPM calculates the "idle ...% of the time" message idleness. In addition, I have added a new tool, IDLEDPMS, which is a small but effective TSR screen saver. For example you run "idledpms 15", the screen saver stays in ram, an

[Freedos-user] FDAPM

2007-07-07 Thread Florian Xaver
Hi, how is the status of this package manager tool (http://fdpm.sourceforge.net/): It seems to work now? Btw: There should be a big link at FreeDOS homepage I think. I have seen the great package manager of Debian and DJGPP (http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~phekda/richdawe/pakke/) and I think it

Re: [Freedos-user] FDAPM / REXX / QBASIC / POWER questions TO users

2005-03-02 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 1-Мар-2005 22:42 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Auer) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: EA> - POWER can detect "check for key"-flooding and react with freezing the EA> system for some part of every second (usually 3/8-7/8 of it, with flood EA> being defined as usually 285-750 re

[Freedos-user] FDAPM / REXX / QBASIC / POWER questions TO users

2005-03-02 Thread Eric Auer
Hi, some questions TO the users (as opposed to questions FROM users ;-))... - what do you think about adding the SF project Regina-Rexx to FreeDOS? It implements the REXX scripting language which is IBM's PC DOS answer to MS DOS QBASIC, and probably a good one. However, it is quite big, mor

[Freedos-user] FDAPM questions for (non)DOSers: AGP, SCSI energy saving

2005-01-12 Thread Eric Auer
Hi, question, does any of you think that - VBE/PM aware screensavers save more energy than classic VGA compatible "put monitor into standby / suspend / poweroff" ones? I mean, is there a chance that VBE/PM puts not only the screen but also the graphics card into some energy saving mode? - PC