Re: [Freedos-user] Country Code

2022-01-08 Thread Robert Riebisch
Hi Liam, >> > Nothing you've said is remotely persuasive, IMHO. >> >> I'm not here to convince you. But thanks for sharing your opinion. > > I am not attacking you here! :-( > > I'm just trying to warn you that you're doing something dangerous > that's risky to your computer and your data, the s

Re: [Freedos-user] Country Code

2022-01-04 Thread Liam Proven
On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 at 21:33, Robert Riebisch wrote: > > Nothing you've said is remotely persuasive, IMHO. > > I'm not here to convince you. But thanks for sharing your opinion. I am not attacking you here! :-( I'm just trying to warn you that you're doing something dangerous that's risky to you

Re: [Freedos-user] Country Code

2022-01-03 Thread Bryan Kilgallin
Yes, Ralf: I have a really basic question regarding the date format. After decades, I decided I would like the date format to be -mm-dd instead of mm-dd-yy As this thread has drifted off into a completely different topic, here's a bit humor to get back on the issue at hand (though I am no

Re: [Freedos-user] Country Code

2022-01-03 Thread Robert Riebisch
Hi Liam, [...] > Nothing you've said is remotely persuasive, IMHO. I'm not here to convince you. But thanks for sharing your opinion. Cheers, Robert -- +++ BTTR Software +++ Home page: https://www.bttr-software.de/ DOS ain't dead: https://www.bttr-software.de/forum/ __

Re: [Freedos-user] Country Code

2022-01-03 Thread Ralf Quint
On 12/30/2021 2:22 AM, JR wrote: Hi there I have a really basic question regarding the date format. After decades, I decided I would like the date format to be -mm-dd instead of mm-dd-yy As this thread has drifted off into a completely different topic, here's a bit humor to get back on the

Re: [Freedos-user] Country Code

2022-01-03 Thread Liam Proven
On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 at 16:44, Robert Riebisch wrote: > > > I have to ask: why run this old version? It's a bit dangerous to let > > Because I *can*. :-D Doing unsafe things for no good reason is... not smart. > TB2 as a target for remote code execution these days? I doubt so. Not TB2. XP. Yes, v

[Freedos-user] Country code

2022-01-02 Thread Jose Senna
This has drifted quite apart from the original subject, I will post. Robert Riebisch said: | why I should talk to 4 different mail servers. I have one | mailbox with multiple addresses and that's fine. One reason is that if a mail server does not work well, as this did for most of past ye

Re: [Freedos-user] Country Code

2022-01-02 Thread Robert Riebisch
Hi Liam, >> This message is written on virtual Windows XP using Thunderbird 2.x from >> 2010. ;-) > > I have to ask: why run this old version? It's a bit dangerous to let Because I *can*. :-D > such an old app connect to the internet, especially on a very old, TB2 as a target for remote code e

Re: [Freedos-user] Country Code

2022-01-01 Thread Bryan Kilgallin
Hi Ralf: Well, it really would bode you well if you were a bit less arrogant at times. {These are called ‘You statements’ and are the typical way we communicate. We tell the person what he did or didn’t do, whether it was right or wrong or what he should or shouldn’t be doing. Such statement

Re: [Freedos-user] Country Code

2022-01-01 Thread Ralf Quint
On 12/31/2021 2:37 PM, tom ehlert wrote: At that point, the system wants to create a page file that is larger (by default) than the 2GB fixed file size limit of FAT16/32. FAT has a limit of 4GB. it's DOS that limits this unless you indicate at DosOpen that you understand the difference between

Re: [Freedos-user] Country Code

2022-01-01 Thread Liam Proven
On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 at 20:21, Robert Riebisch wrote: > > This message is written on virtual Windows XP using Thunderbird 2.x from > 2010. ;-) I have to ask: why run this old version? It's a bit dangerous to let such an old app connect to the internet, especially on a very old, insecure OS. Thunde

Re: [Freedos-user] Country Code

2022-01-01 Thread Deposite Pirate
On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 17:37:29 +0100 Liam Proven wrote: > > This typical Microsoftish genius idea, makes you jump through all > > kinds of hoops that include a third party online repartitioning > > tool to install it on an NTFS partition bigger than 2Gb. > > That's unfair. I think it's connected wi

Re: [Freedos-user] Country Code

2022-01-01 Thread Robert Riebisch
Hi Travis, > Reminds me of my last XP machine, supposedly, XP could handle up to 4GB > of ram, but when I installed 4GB in my machine, XP only saw 3.5GB. No > idea why, I never did find out what the technical reason was, but it was > a commonly known problem, since almost everywhere I tried to

Re: [Freedos-user] Country Code

2022-01-01 Thread Travis Siegel
Ahh, thanks, that makes a lot of sense.  Wasn't aware such things were still the case these days, but these two messages answer the question sufficiently, thanks for that. On 1/1/2022 8:23 AM, Liam Proven wrote: On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 at 02:12, Travis Siegel wrote: supposedly, XP could handle u

Re: [Freedos-user] Country Code

2022-01-01 Thread Liam Proven
On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 at 02:12, Travis Siegel wrote: > > supposedly, XP could handle up to 4GB > of ram, but when I installed 4GB in my machine, XP only saw 3.5GB. What Jon Brase said, broadly. Remember the original PC's 640 kB limit? The 8088 and 8086 could address 1 MB of RAM, but DOS on the PC c

Re: [Freedos-user] Country Code

2021-12-31 Thread Jon Brase
The issue is memory-mapped hardware. Any hardware that exposes configuration resisters or data buffers on the main address bus ends up taking a block of physical address space that could be used by RAM. If your CPU, motherboard, and/or OS can't deal with physical addresses wider than 32 bits, th

Re: [Freedos-user] Country Code

2021-12-31 Thread Travis Siegel
Reminds me of my last XP machine, supposedly, XP could handle up to 4GB of ram, but when I installed 4GB in my machine, XP only saw 3.5GB.  No idea why, I never did find out what the technical reason was, but it was a commonly known problem, since almost everywhere I tried to get the ram from f

Re: [Freedos-user] Country Code

2021-12-31 Thread tom ehlert
> At that point, the system wants to create a page file that is larger (by > default) than the 2GB fixed file size limit of FAT16/32. FAT has a limit of 4GB. it's DOS that limits this unless you indicate at DosOpen that you understand the difference between signed and unsigned (2GB and 4GB) off

Re: [Freedos-user] Country Code

2021-12-31 Thread Ralf Quint
On 12/31/2021 8:14 AM, Liam Proven wrote: On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 at 21:04, Deposite Pirate wrote: Windows XP can indeed officially be installed and boot from FAT32. https://kb.iu.edu/d/ajqm AFAICS that page is inconclusive and merely says that XP supports FAT16, 32 and NTFS, which was never in d

Re: [Freedos-user] Country Code

2021-12-31 Thread Deposite Pirate
On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 17:14:10 +0100 Liam Proven wrote: > FWIW, I always used to have a DOS boot partition (C:) and put Windows > on D: back in the XP days. It was useful to have the ability to > dual-boot DOS for BIOS reflashing and occasionally for emergency data > recovery. I made the partition b

Re: [Freedos-user] Country Code

2021-12-31 Thread Liam Proven
On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 at 01:46, Deposite Pirate wrote: > > Windows NT was designed to work with FAT. Windows NT 4 ... and the 3 earlier versions... > always > first formats the install partition as a FAT16 filesystem and then if > you selected NTFS at install, it converts the FAT16 file system onl

Re: [Freedos-user] Country Code

2021-12-31 Thread Liam Proven
On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 at 00:02, Jon Brase wrote: > > NTVDM exists and runs a stripped down version of MS-DOS 5. I think it even > does have non-stripped versions of the relevant files available if the user > decides to sys a floppy. But I've never heard of it being possible to run > anything but

Re: [Freedos-user] Country Code

2021-12-31 Thread Liam Proven
On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 at 21:04, Deposite Pirate wrote: > > Windows XP can indeed officially be installed and boot from FAT32. > > https://kb.iu.edu/d/ajqm AFAICS that page is inconclusive and merely says that XP supports FAT16, 32 and NTFS, which was never in doubt. But I checked and you're right.

Re: [Freedos-user] Country Code

2021-12-30 Thread Deposite Pirate
On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 18:40:07 -0500 dmccunney wrote: > You might be*able* to. I encountered a guy years back adamant that > Win2K should be run from FAT32. He thought it was faster. (I thought > he was a fool.) > > Why you might *want* to is another matter. "A file system DOS can > read and write

Re: [Freedos-user] Country Code

2021-12-30 Thread dmccunney
On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 3:04 PM Deposite Pirate wrote: > On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 19:21:36 +0100 > Liam Proven wrote: > > AFAIK XP *must* be installed in an NTFS partition. It cannot be > > installed on FAT. DOS can't boot from NTFS and can't read NTFS without > > additional drivers. So I still don't

Re: [Freedos-user] Country Code

2021-12-30 Thread Jon Brase
Dec 30, 2021 12:22:48 Liam Proven : > > I have been using NT since the first version, 3.1, in 1993. There is > no built-in facility or tool to run DOS under it and never has been. > That is why I asked. This is highly relevant and important to the > question. There are no "dots" to follow. NTVDM

Re: [Freedos-user] Country Code

2021-12-30 Thread Deposite Pirate
On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 19:21:36 +0100 Liam Proven wrote: > AFAIK XP *must* be installed in an NTFS partition. It cannot be > installed on FAT. DOS can't boot from NTFS and can't read NTFS without > additional drivers. So I still don't know what you're doing here. Windows XP can indeed officially be

Re: [Freedos-user] Country Code

2021-12-30 Thread Liam Proven
On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 at 13:19, JR wrote: > Too long ago, I can't remember. Probably just followed the dots at the > time. Runs in a Windows VDM as far as I know. I have been using NT since the first version, 3.1, in 1993. There is no built-in facility or tool to run DOS under it and never has bee

Re: [Freedos-user] Country Code

2021-12-30 Thread Liam Proven
On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 at 11:39, JR wrote: First thing... > I am running FreeDos under Windows XP ... Er... How? 2nd thing: > included the line > "country=061,437,c:\windows\system32\country.sys" in the > c:\windows\system32\config.nt file Should this not be pointing to FreeDOS' directory and Fr

[Freedos-user] Country Code

2021-12-30 Thread JR
Hi there I have a really basic question regarding the date format. After decades, I decided I would like the date format to be -mm-dd instead of mm-dd-yy The "International English" country code of 061 will do the job. See. http://wiki.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/Country_codes I am running Fr