Re: [Freedos-user] Catch-all Repository for legacy DOS software

2012-04-03 Thread Mark Brown
o.com .. --- On Mon, 4/2/12, Marco Achury wrote: From: Marco Achury Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Catch-all Repository for legacy DOS software To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Monday, April 2, 2012, 6:58 PM El 02/04/2012 03:35 p.m., dmccunney escribió

Re: [Freedos-user] Catch-all Repository for legacy DOS software

2012-04-03 Thread Alex
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 5:45 AM, dmccunney wrote: > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Alex wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 12:58 AM, Marco Achury wrote: >>> El 02/04/2012 03:35 p.m., dmccunney escribió: >> >>> But is easier to learn how to write DOS programs than Windows or Linux >>> programs. >>>

Re: [Freedos-user] Catch-all Repository for legacy DOS software

2012-04-02 Thread Ralf A. Quint
At 08:45 PM 4/2/2012, dmccunney wrote: > > And don't forget Lua. It's very simple and quite powerful at the same > > time. An excellent language indeed. > >But it's specifically intended for embedding within other programs as >a script language. (There are an assortment of text editors (like >Sci

Re: [Freedos-user] Catch-all Repository for legacy DOS software

2012-04-02 Thread dmccunney
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Alex wrote: > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 12:58 AM, Marco Achury wrote: >> El 02/04/2012 03:35 p.m., dmccunney escribió: > >> But is easier to learn how to write DOS programs than Windows or Linux >> programs. >> DOS is a great OS to introduce programming. >> >> A simpl

Re: [Freedos-user] Catch-all Repository for legacy DOS software

2012-04-02 Thread dmccunney
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Marco Achury wrote: > El 02/04/2012 03:35 p.m., dmccunney escribió: > > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Mark Brown wrote: > > as usual, we all need more and better freeware, > and like the gnu flag says, free thinking... > > maybe someday someone will invent an ope

Re: [Freedos-user] Catch-all Repository for legacy DOS software

2012-04-02 Thread Alex
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 12:58 AM, Marco Achury wrote: > El 02/04/2012 03:35 p.m., dmccunney escribió: > But is easier to learn how to write DOS programs than Windows or Linux > programs. > DOS is a great OS to introduce programming. > > A simple programming language as Qbasic or Euphoria give you

Re: [Freedos-user] Catch-all Repository for legacy DOS software

2012-04-02 Thread Marco Achury
El 02/04/2012 03:35 p.m., dmccunney escribió: > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Mark Brown wrote: >> as usual, we all need more and better freeware, >> and like the gnu flag says, free thinking... >> >> maybe someday someone will invent an operating system >> that promotes user programming instead

Re: [Freedos-user] Catch-all Repository for legacy DOS software

2012-04-02 Thread dmccunney
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Mark Brown wrote: > as usual, we all need more and better freeware, > and like the gnu flag says, free thinking... > > maybe someday someone will invent an operating system > that promotes user programming instead of suppresses it. Linux does. It's open source.

Re: [Freedos-user] Catch-all Repository for legacy DOS software

2012-04-02 Thread Mark Brown
as usual, we all need more and better freeware, and like the gnu flag says, free thinking...   maybe someday someone will invent an operating system that promotes user programming instead of suppresses it. .. eufdp...

Re: [Freedos-user] Catch-all Repository for legacy DOS software

2012-04-02 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 6:23 AM, Alex wrote: > > mateusz (mate...@viste-family.net) wrote: > >> An alternative would be to distribute not the application/program itself, >> but just a small *.torrent file... ;) > > I wonder if it would really all that much of a risk if we post links > of copy

Re: [Freedos-user] Catch-all Repository for legacy DOS software

2012-04-02 Thread Alex
Hi all, mateusz (mate...@viste-family.net) wrote: > An alternative would be to distribute not the application/program itself, but > just a small *.torrent file... ;) I wonder if it would really all that much of a risk if we post links of copyrighted programs (which are already hosted on other w

Re: [Freedos-user] Catch-all Repository for legacy DOS software

2012-03-30 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Jim Hall wrote: > >> I've not kept up with Embarcadero's site since I switched to Linux, >> but at least in the days of CodeGear, there used to be a museum from >> which old versions of Borland software were downloadable - from >> memory, there was Turbo Pasca

Re: [Freedos-user] Catch-all Repository for legacy DOS software

2012-03-30 Thread Jim Hall
> > There is nothing wrong with these proprietary program if that is > > what you prefer. And back in the day, I had my own licensed copies > > of Wordperfect, Aseasyas, Doom, Procomm, QuickC, Borland C, and > > other proprietary DOS programs. But these programs are non-free > >

Re: [Freedos-user] Catch-all Repository for legacy DOS software

2012-03-30 Thread brian
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Jim Hall > wrote: > > At least in the US, this is still an issue for proprietary > programs where the parent company may have gone out of business. > (Also referred to as "abandonware".) The copyrights are often > bought

Re: [Freedos-user] Catch-all Repository for legacy DOS software

2012-03-29 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Alex, an obvious question: What is wrong about the already existing pages which collect legacy DOS software? It may the that they are not MANAGED by FreeDOS people, but it is not like the typical FreeDOS user would be bored :-) And you could of course donate your private collections - dependin

Re: [Freedos-user] Catch-all Repository for legacy DOS software

2012-03-29 Thread Neal Weissman
i used to be a paralegal, and my specialty was not Intellectual Property, but i will offer that the contract that purchased the proprietary rights of defunct companies may not be as extensive or conclusive as you think it is -- the only thing you have to fear is fear itself. On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 a

Re: [Freedos-user] Catch-all Repository for legacy DOS software

2012-03-28 Thread Jeffrey
On 03/28/2012 11:22 AM, Jim Hall wrote: I would be happy to have an open, editable directory of legacy DOS software, including screenshots & descriptions. I think that part is a great idea. But we would be unable to host or distribute any files, nor link to sites that have them unless they are

Re: [Freedos-user] Catch-all Repository for legacy DOS software

2012-03-28 Thread Jim Hall
I would be happy to have an open, editable directory of legacy DOS software, including screenshots & descriptions. I think that part is a great idea. But we would be unable to host or distribute any files, nor link to sites that have them unless they are original shareware or other distributable so

Re: [Freedos-user] Catch-all Repository for legacy DOS software

2012-03-28 Thread mateusz
Hello, As Jim pointed out, the problem is about copyright of all these oldish DOS applications. Such site as you describe *could* exist, but it should be limited to a list of software (possibly categorized and subcategorized) + one or two screeshots of the application + a description of what the p

Re: [Freedos-user] Catch-all Repository for legacy DOS software

2012-03-28 Thread Jim Hall
Hi. You hit on the sticking point: copyright. It is illegal in many countries (including the US, where FreeDOS is hosted) to distribute non-free, proprietary software in the way you propose. And much of the legacy software you refer to is proprietary. Even hosting copies of these proprietary files

[Freedos-user] Catch-all Repository for legacy DOS software

2012-03-28 Thread Alex
Hi, I have an idea which may prove fruitful for many FreeDOS users: creating a catch-all shared pool of old (or even new) DOS programs. I know, there are already websites with legacy software collections, but what I have in mind would be something better, and more organized, and above all managed