Re: [Freedos-user] DOSshell replacement

2022-08-17 Thread Aitor Santamaría
Hi Eric, True! I forgot of Triple-DOS. (Although I have not tried it myself). Aitor On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 at 21:42, Eric Auer wrote: > > Hi Aitor, > > the topic reminds me that we have > > > https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/system/triple-dos/ > > in our archives - i

Re: [Freedos-user] DOSshell replacement

2022-08-17 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Aitor, the topic reminds me that we have https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/system/triple-dos/ in our archives - it is 20 years old and rather limited, but it might still provide some inspiration somehow :-) Regards, Eric Under DOS-Shell, there was the DOSSW

Re: [Freedos-user] DOSshell replacement

2022-08-17 Thread Aitor Santamaría
Hi, On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 at 18:21, Bret Johnson wrote: > The first thing I think to note is that DOSShell was MUCH more than just a > program launcher. It include the same basic implementation and > functionality that were in early versions of Windows (3.x) to perform > task-switching. With DOS

Re: [Freedos-user] dosbox-x update available

2022-08-17 Thread Wengier W via Freedos-user
 > NTVDM Compatibility and quality problems aside, WinNT+'s NTVDM only supports (subset of) DOS programs designed for the standard IBM PC with limited hardware configurations. On the other hand, DOSBox(-X) goes way beyond this, for example, allowing to emulate another full DOS-based PC, runnin

Re: [Freedos-user] dosbox-x update available

2022-08-17 Thread Wengier W via Freedos-user
> The 32-bit WinNT one can't: it's a sort of VM, containing a DOS emulator. > The reason the NT one isn't very good is the reason that NT was a successful > product: because it isolates apps from the hardware, making it more reliable > and allowing SMP and things. The root reason is that WinNT i

Re: [Freedos-user] DOSshell replacement

2022-08-17 Thread Bret Johnson
I realize I'm a little late to this party, but I've got a couple of comments. The first thing I think to note is that DOSShell was MUCH more than just a program launcher. It include the same basic implementation and functionality that were in early versions of Windows (3.x) to perform task-swit

Re: [Freedos-user] dosbox-x update available

2022-08-17 Thread Aitor Santamaría
Hello, On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 at 12:00, Liam Proven wrote: > On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 at 01:34, Wengier W via Freedos-user > wrote: > > > > The apparent problems are the compatibility and quality. There are huge > differences between Windows 9x's MS-DOS prompt and (32-bit) Windows XP's > NTVDM. > > Wel

Re: [Freedos-user] dosbox-x update available

2022-08-17 Thread tom ehlert
>> The apparent problems are the compatibility and quality. There are huge >> differences between Windows 9x's MS-DOS prompt and (32-bit) Windows XP's >> NTVDM. > Well, yes. The Win9x DOS prompt is real DOS running on a real DOS > kernel which can access hardware. Well, no. The Win9x DOS prom

Re: [Freedos-user] dosbox-x update available

2022-08-17 Thread Liam Proven
On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 at 01:34, Wengier W via Freedos-user wrote: > > The apparent problems are the compatibility and quality. There are huge > differences between Windows 9x's MS-DOS prompt and (32-bit) Windows XP's > NTVDM. Well, yes. The Win9x DOS prompt is real DOS running on a real DOS kerne