Re: [Freedos-user] Why I use DOS a.k.a. FreeDOS for Dummies?

2021-04-25 Thread Ralf Quint
On 4/25/2021 10:43 PM, TK Chia wrote: Hello Ralf, Still an excellent tool I consider TROFF, now GROFF, for Unix/Linux -which also exists for Windows, appeared in 1990 (Version 0.3.1) by James Clark) coming from  “a text-formatting program called RUNOFF, which was written by Jerome H. Saltzer fo

Re: [Freedos-user] Why I use DOS a.k.a. FreeDOS for Dummies?

2021-04-25 Thread TK Chia
Hello Ralf, Still an excellent tool I consider TROFF, now GROFF, for Unix/Linux -which also exists for Windows, appeared in 1990 (Version 0.3.1) by James Clark) coming from  “a text-formatting program called RUNOFF, which was written by Jerome H. Saltzer for MIT's CTSS operating system in the mi

Re: [Freedos-user] Why I use DOS a.k.a. FreeDOS for Dummies?

2021-04-25 Thread Ralf Quint
On 4/23/2021 1:44 PM, Thomas Desi wrote: Hi Ralf, good to focus on the “whys”. You said: | “Nor would I do any graphics work in DOS, or any word | processing these days.” I did get into DOS because of “word processing”. More precisely it is a text-processing tool(!) EVA.EXE which was develop

Re: [Freedos-user] Print via USB / deprecate or improve PRINT queue tools?

2021-04-25 Thread Bryan Kilgallin
Thanks, Eric: And actually it could work better to use the NETWORK for printing, because DOS (wired LAN) network drivers are more evolved than DOS USB drivers and you can use DOS versions of NETCAT or other tools to copy the contents you want to print to the IP and port of your printer as hopefu

Re: [Freedos-user] Print via network

2021-04-25 Thread Bryan Kilgallin
Eric Auer wrote: Intel actually does provide DOS drivers for this chip (but they say the stopped supporting DOS after 2019) which contains at least NDIS support. I have not checked whether it contains a packet driver as well: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/29138/Intel-Ethernet-Adapte

Re: [Freedos-user] Print via network

2021-04-25 Thread Liam Proven
On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 at 10:44, Bryan Kilgallin wrote: > > Transmission Control Protocol / Internet Protocol ( TCP/IP ) used > for instance by UNIX, GNU/Linux, Windows Vista, OS X and the Internet, We already know it must be TCP/IP. Everything else is obsolete. > Unfortunately, I don't see a

Re: [Freedos-user] Printing over the network

2021-04-25 Thread Frantisek Rysanek
...for some reason, this has not been delivered on Friday... (continuing a privately started debate in the mailing list) We need to start from the fact (which you have found out, and I have cofirmed) that your printer is probaby GDI based. (To me this sad fact is still surprising, or "despite all

Re: [Freedos-user] Print via network

2021-04-25 Thread Bryan Kilgallin
Sorry, Eric: PCISCAN showed: Bus 1 Dev C Func 0 Slot 2C Vend 0006 Dev. 100E Class Name Network Subclass Name Ethernet. Correction: the vendor is "8086". In case the vendor is something else, this might be an Intel 82540EM Gigabit LAN controller. You

Re: [Freedos-user] Print via network

2021-04-25 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Bryan, > PCISCAN showed: > Bus 1 > Dev C > Func 0 > Slot 2C > Vend 0006 > Dev. 100E > Class Name Network > Subclass Name Ethernet. In case the vendor is something else, this might be an Intel 82540EM Gigabit LAN controller. If 0006:100e is indeed correct, it i

Re: [Freedos-user] Print via USB

2021-04-25 Thread Bryan Kilgallin
G'day Thomas: Regarding printing I think there are two basic concepts: Using fonts from the printer (I call this „generic“, but maybe this is my private lingo) or using graphics from the computer. I hadn't got so much as a grunt out of the printer, from my FreeDOS PC! I wonder if you attem

Re: [Freedos-user] Print via network

2021-04-25 Thread Bryan Kilgallin
Hm, Liam: [1] Find out what network protocol(s) your printer speaks Device URI: implicitclass://Brother_HL_3150CDN_series/ Make and Model: Brother HL-3150CDN series, driverless, cups-filters 1.27.4 -- members.iinet.net.au/~kilgallin/ ___ Freedos-us

Re: [Freedos-user] Printing over the network

2021-04-25 Thread Bryan Kilgallin
Thanks, Mateusz: If you have a printer that is network enabled and it speaks Postscript, PCL, Epson ESC P2, or plain text then you can "print to a file" under DOS and then use Netcat to send the file to your printer. {Protocols IPv4 ARP, RARP, BOOTP, DHCP, APIPA(Auto IP), WINS/NetBIOS name re

Re: [Freedos-user] Print via network

2021-04-25 Thread Bryan Kilgallin
Liam wrote: {[1] Find out what network protocol(s) your printer speaks} {Protocols IPv4 ARP, RARP, BOOTP, DHCP, APIPA(Auto IP), WINS/NetBIOS name resolution, DNS Resolver, mDNS, LLMNR responder, LPR/LPD, Custom Raw Port/Port9100, IPP/IPPS, FTP Server, TELNET Server, HTTP/HTTPS server, TFTP clien

Re: [Freedos-user] Print via USB

2021-04-25 Thread Bryan Kilgallin
Thanks, Frank, for the long reply: But, yours is a different problem: your printer does not even have LPT "input". It has USB and Ethernet. At the moment, I have just the latter wired to my router. Technically, a USB printer shows up on the USB bus as a "USB LPT device", or "USBLP". How

[Freedos-user] Why I use DOS a.k.a. FreeDOS for Dummies?

2021-04-25 Thread Thomas Desi
Hi Ralf, good to focus on the “whys”. You said: | “Nor would I do any graphics work in DOS, or any word | processing these days.” I did get into DOS because of “word processing”. More precisely it is a text-processing tool(!) EVA.EXE which was developed by Primož Jakopin in the 1970ies and

Re: [Freedos-user] Print via network

2021-04-25 Thread Bryan Kilgallin
Liam wrote: {[2] Look for DOS support for 1 of those protocols} FreeDOS protocols: {The following protocols are supported by these three drivers: Transmission Control Protocol / Internet Protocol ( TCP/IP ) used for instance by UNIX, GNU/Linux, Windows Vista, OS X and the Internet, I

Re: [Freedos-user] Why I use DOS a.k.a. FreeDOS for Dummies?

2021-04-25 Thread Thomas Desi
Hi Ralf, good to focus on the “whys”. You said: | “Nor would I do any graphics work in DOS, or any word | processing these days.” I did get into DOS because of “word processing”. More precisely it is a text-processing tool(!) EVA.EXE which was developed by Primož Jakopin in the 1970ies and