Re: [Freedos-user] CTMouse Buttons programming?

2021-04-17 Thread Bret Johnson
Thomas: In DOS, only one program at a time can control the mouse. It will either be MOUSKEYS or it will be the other program, but it can't be both at the same time. If a program already interfaces with the mouse, it is usually better to let the program control the mouse since it can change wha

Re: [Freedos-user] Latex / long filenames

2021-04-17 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, (wow, sorry, I'm horribly late in replying) On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 12:27 PM Tomas By wrote: > > Am trying to use Latex (from DJGPP) in Freedos, and get errors > seemingly having to do with long file names. My memory isn't flawless, so corrections welcome, but Most DJGPP .ZIPs halfway

Re: [Freedos-user] Why do you use DOS

2021-04-17 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Liam, > I personally prefer running PC DOS 7.1 or DR-DOS. The small differences > in FreeDOS irritate me, and I am more familiar with these versions. Please mention a few examples of differences :-) > I was an expert in DOS manual memory management and could usually get > circa 620 kB free

Re: [Freedos-user] Why do you use DOS

2021-04-17 Thread TK Chia
Hello Ralf, On a slightly related note: https://www.pcjs.org/blog/2018/05/27/ . :-) Well, that article has a whole lot of nothing about "CALL 5". Read on carefully. :-) There is a VM of PC-DOS 2.0 which includes a utility that was part of Microsoft Word ... and the utility uses `call 5'. (A

Re: [Freedos-user] Why do you use DOS

2021-04-17 Thread Ralf Quint
On 4/17/2021 10:23 AM, TK Chia wrote: Hello Ralf, The "CALL 5" equivalent was never properly implemented, I guess Peterson ran into problems with the differences of the 8080 and 8086 CPUs. [...] And you will have a hard time to find any serious documentation on that CALL 5 stuff for any ver

Re: [Freedos-user] Why do you use DOS

2021-04-17 Thread TK Chia
Hello Ralf, The "CALL 5" equivalent was never properly implemented, I guess Peterson ran into problems with the differences of the 8080 and 8086 CPUs. [...] And you will have a hard time to find any serious documentation on that CALL 5 stuff for any version of DOS. And I would be surprised i

Re: [Freedos-user] Why do you use DOS

2021-04-17 Thread Ralf Quint
On 4/17/2021 3:39 AM, TK Chia wrote: Hello Liam, hello Tom, And according to the mainstream account (?), CP/M-86 would not be released until late 1981.  QDOS was released earlier, in mid-1980 (https://archive.org/stream/byte-magazine-1980-08/1980_08_BYTE_05-08_The_Forth_Language#page/n173/mode/

Re: [Freedos-user] Why do you use DOS

2021-04-17 Thread Verite Philippe
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Re: [Freedos-user] Why do you use DOS

2021-04-17 Thread Liam Proven
On Sat, 17 Apr 2021 at 13:36, tom ehlert wrote: > > and by extension FreeDOS is an unlicensed copy of MSDOS 6.x ? > > nope. And now you are talking to yourself – and disagreeing with yourself?! Are you feeling all right? -- Liam Proven – Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.

Re: [Freedos-user] Why do you use DOS

2021-04-17 Thread Liam Proven
On Sat, 17 Apr 2021 at 11:21, tom ehlert wrote: > by TK Chia's remark, CP/M-86 didn't even exist yet when he wrote QDOS. > and QDOS couldn't compete with CP/M as CP/M doesn't run on 8088. Did the original Mac compete with the PC? The PC can't run MacOS. The Mac couldn't run DOS (without expensiv

Re: [Freedos-user] Why do you use DOS

2021-04-17 Thread tom ehlert
Hallo Herr tom ehlert, am Samstag, 17. April 2021 um 11:20 schrieben Sie: > BTW: your original statement was > 'Remember that in effect MS-DOS was an unlicensed copy of Digital >Research's CP/M and particularly CP/M-86.' > by TK Chia's remark, CP/M-86 didn't even exist yet when he wrote Q

Re: [Freedos-user] CTMouse Buttons programming?

2021-04-17 Thread Thomas Desi
Hello Bret, allow me to ask you, the author of »mouskeys« and am I right the »usbutils" (usb drivers for dos) two questions? 1) Some DOS Programs (text editors) seem to »override« the mouskeys settings (what is summarized in "mouskeys /t«). Is there a trick to obey to mouskeys.com? - I am no

Re: [Freedos-user] Why do you use DOS

2021-04-17 Thread TK Chia
Hello Liam, hello Tom, And according to the mainstream account (?), CP/M-86 would not be released until late 1981.  QDOS was released earlier, in mid-1980 (https://archive.org/stream/byte-magazine-1980-08/1980_08_BYTE_05-08_The_Forth_Language#page/n173/mode/2up). QDOS's system call interface

Re: [Freedos-user] Why do you use DOS

2021-04-17 Thread tom ehlert
BTW: your original statement was 'Remember that in effect MS-DOS was an unlicensed copy of Digital Research's CP/M and particularly CP/M-86.' by TK Chia's remark, CP/M-86 didn't even exist yet when he wrote QDOS. and QDOS couldn't compete with CP/M as CP/M doesn't run on 8088. > I still mai

Re: [Freedos-user] Why do you use DOS

2021-04-17 Thread TK Chia
Hello Liam, All right, I have to concede that point. Thank you --- glad we could agree. :-) I still maintain there is a bit of a difference between copying a rival's API in order to launch a competing product, and copying a rival's API in order to do something completely different with it.