Re: [Freedos-user] "LBA" And FreeDOS.

2013-12-06 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, (yet another inane response from me) On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Jack wrote: >> >> It's really too bad, though, that MS won't make it official and release >> the MS-DOS source as public domain, or at least one of the various >> open-source licenses. How would that be better than what w

Re: [Freedos-user] "LBA" And FreeDOS.

2013-12-06 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Jack wrote: > >> Wengier Wu's MS-DOS 7 variant has a licensing issue ... > > "So what??", as I noted in my prior post. At least 18 years have > gone by since Gates & Co. declared "DOS is dead!", and no lawyers > I know of have EVER gone-after any V7.10 users

Re: [Freedos-user] "LBA" And FreeDOS.

2013-12-06 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > >> You mean LZ DOS is an improved rip of the MS DOS 7 kernel? Or >> is it just another DOS kernel which provides DOS 7.x compat? > > Unfortunately it is not improved at all: Somebody just took a > few components of MS DOS 7 and PC DOS 7 and R

Re: [Freedos-user] "LBA" And FreeDOS.

2013-12-06 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Jack wrote: > > Note on the FreeDOS "main page" that there are comments about FreeDOS > offering "LBA" large-disk capability (48-bit disk addressing, not 24- > bit "CHS"), which MS-DOS did not have, and which the "main page" says > was unavailable except with D

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS FDNPKG 16 bit port and other package system improvements

2013-12-06 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 11:43 AM, sparky4 insano wrote: > > I really wish there was a 16 bit port of fdnpkg! > but it is quite difficult to port it over These are just .ZIPs with a special layout, so it's not like you can't manually install them. Besides, most DOS programs don't have lots

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS FDNPKG 16 bit port and other package system improvements

2013-12-06 Thread Matej Horvat
Hi, > I really wish there was a 16 bit port of fdnpkg! > but it is quite difficult to port it over I have tried porting an older version of FDNPKG to Open Watcom in the past. My changes became obsolete once a newer one (0.95, I think) was released, so I deleted them. (Modifying the makefi

Re: [Freedos-user] ROM drive support and recinishion in FreeDOS is quite poor

2013-12-06 Thread dmccunney
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 1:22 PM, sparky4 insano wrote: > >>Oh, the old Zenith machine? http://oldcomputers.net/zenith-minisport.html > > yeah! > >>ROM or RAM? > It is a theory but it Gets very confused with a ROM drive and a BIOS RAM > drive I'm just trying to be clear on your problem. ROM boot

Re: [Freedos-user] "LBA" And FreeDOS.

2013-12-06 Thread dmccunney
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Jack wrote: >> The ms-dos7.hit.bg site seems to have been offline since 2010 ... > > Oh, REALLY?? Sure worked well for me yesterday, 4-Dec-2013, when I got > both V7.10 MS-DOS diskettes and checked them! And it also caused me no > problems when I accessed the si

Re: [Freedos-user] ROM drive support and recinishion in FreeDOS is quite poor

2013-12-06 Thread sparky4 insano
>Oh, the old Zenith machine? http://oldcomputers.net/zenith-minisport.html yeah! >ROM or RAM? It is a theory but it Gets very confused with a ROM drive and a BIOS RAM drive >The Minisport can reportedly boot from A:, the built-in ROM (which gets you MS-DOS 3.3) , or D:, the battery backed RAM d

Re: [Freedos-user] "LBA" And FreeDOS.

2013-12-06 Thread Jack
> The ms-dos7.ht.bg site seems to have been offline since 2010 ... Oh, REALLY?? Sure worked well for me yesterday, 4-Dec-2013, when I got both V7.10 MS-DOS diskettes and checked them! And it also caused me no problems when I accessed the site again, a moment ago!!

Re: [Freedos-user] "LBA" And FreeDOS.

2013-12-06 Thread dmccunney
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Jack wrote: > If you go to and download their 2-diskette > V7.10 MS-DOS set, then write both diskettes and do an "install" of > then (omitting actually writing IO.SYS, MS-DOS.SYS, etc.), you will > note it "Sure LOOKS like!" a system which

Re: [Freedos-user] ROM drive support and recinishion in FreeDOS is quite poor

2013-12-06 Thread dmccunney
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 12:13 PM, sparky4 insano wrote: > The kernal gests confused when it tries to boot off on the BIOS RAM DRIVE of > my minisport ZL-1 machine Oh, the old Zenith machine? http://oldcomputers.net/zenith-minisport.html > if you have a PC with a ROM drive on it please run freedo

[Freedos-user] FreeDOS FDNPKG 16 bit port and other package system improvements

2013-12-06 Thread sparky4 insano
I really wish there was a 16 bit port of fdnpkg! but it is quite difficult to port it over I also wish the developers of Free Open Source Software for DOS would at least make a FreeDOS package of their stuff and put it in the repository!! Speaking of which i want to update a bunch of the pack

[Freedos-user] ROM drive support and recinishion in FreeDOS is quite poor

2013-12-06 Thread sparky4 insano
The kernal gests confused when it tries to boot off on the BIOS RAM DRIVE of my minisport ZL-1 machine if you have a PC with a ROM drive on it please run freedos on it and see how it behaves... -- Sponsored by Intel(R) XD

Re: [Freedos-user] "LBA" And FreeDOS.

2013-12-06 Thread Jack
> It's really too bad, though, that MS won't make it official and release > the MS-DOS source as public domain, or at least one of the various > open-source licenses. "Surely you JEST!", my friend [are joking]! "Gates & Co." are charter members of the U.S.A.'s "All we want is MONEY!" brotherhoo

Re: [Freedos-user] "LBA" And FreeDOS.

2013-12-06 Thread Jack
Eric, > I think that FreeDOS should also be more "bit-exact" and mention > "(only 32 bit useable due to MBR partitioning schema limitations)" > along with the LBA48 comment. Might also create feedback from > people who want to help to implement or test GPT partitions :-) "Zounds good" to me!

Re: [Freedos-user] "LBA" And FreeDOS.

2013-12-06 Thread Eric Auer
Hi, I have to follow-up myself on LZ-DOS: > google translate of http://dos.nm.ru/ is only a kernel, freeware > provided as-is by JSC. Can be used with the userspace tools and > drivers of other DOS variants and generally sounds interesting. ... > You mean LZ DOS is an improved rip of the MS DOS

Re: [Freedos-user] "LBA" And FreeDOS.

2013-12-06 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Jack, > Note on the FreeDOS "main page" that there are comments about FreeDOS > offering "LBA" large-disk capability (48-bit disk addressing, not 24- > bit "CHS"), which MS-DOS did not have, and which the "main page" says > was unavailable except with DOS Windows. I think that FreeDOS should

Re: [Freedos-user] "LBA" And FreeDOS.

2013-12-06 Thread Dave Kerber
It's really too bad, though, that MS won't make it official and release the MS-DOS source as public domain, or at least one of the various open-source licenses. > -Original Message- > From: Jack [mailto:gykazequ...@earthlink.net] > Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 3:51 PM > To: freedos