Re: [Freedos-user] 32 bit FreeDOS?

2012-04-07 Thread Michael Robinson
Windows 3.11 and Windows 9x seem to be the closest thing to a 32 bit DOS environment that I know of. I agree that creating a "32 bit dos" would be awkward. Heck, 20 bit memory addressing is awkward, isn't it? If you need to run dos games or want to run a Wordprocessor like Wordperfect on an old

Re: [Freedos-user] Programming languages in FreeDOS

2012-04-07 Thread Michael B. Brutman
For hard-core application programming where you need to use a few BIOS and DOS interrupts I like to use C and C++ (carefully). C gives you a tremendous amount of control and flexibility. My two favorite compilers are: Borland Turbo C++ 3.0 for DOS: I did most of my early mTCP work. It reall

Re: [Freedos-user] 32 bit FreeDOS?

2012-04-07 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Ralf A. Quint wrote: > At 11:39 AM 4/7/2012, Marco Achury wrote: >>Check Kolibri OS, is very nice 32 bits, simple, >>ligth, GUI, boot from floppy... >> >>The sole thing is missing there is a DOS >>emulator so we can run our beloved DOS >>apps. > > So what CAN y

Re: [Freedos-user] 32 bit FreeDOS?

2012-04-07 Thread Ralf A. Quint
At 11:39 AM 4/7/2012, Marco Achury wrote: >Check Kolibri OS, is very nice 32 bits, simple, >ligth, GUI, boot from floppy... > >The sole thing is missing there is a DOS >emulator so we can run our beloved DOS >apps. So what CAN you run on that, beside playing Minesweeper? Ralf -

Re: [Freedos-user] 32 bit FreeDOS?

2012-04-07 Thread Alex
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Marco Achury wrote: > Check Kolibri OS, is very nice 32 bits, simple, > ligth, GUI, boot from floppy... > > The sole thing is missing there is a DOS > emulator so we can run our beloved DOS > apps. Kolibri OS has a DOS emulator: Dosbox. -

Re: [Freedos-user] 32 bit FreeDOS?

2012-04-07 Thread Marco Achury
El 07/04/2012 01:02 p.m., Ralf A. Quint escribió: > At 03:15 AM 4/7/2012, Alex wrote: >> In the recent threads there have been many mentions to the fact that >> FreeDOS is "only" 16bit (of course, that is what it is meant to be) >> and that it is out of touch with the modern computing world. Chec

Re: [Freedos-user] 32 bit FreeDOS?

2012-04-07 Thread Ralf A. Quint
At 04:19 AM 4/7/2012, Zbigniew wrote: > >> I was wondering what would it take to upgrade FreeDOS to 32bit, > >> whether it would be worth and whether we would have the human > >> resources. > > > > 32bit user programs tend to be available already in the form of > > protected mode software, using on

Re: [Freedos-user] 32 bit FreeDOS?

2012-04-07 Thread Ralf A. Quint
At 03:15 AM 4/7/2012, Alex wrote: >In the recent threads there have been many mentions to the fact that >FreeDOS is "only" 16bit (of course, that is what it is meant to be) >and that it is out of touch with the modern computing world. You do realize that it is kind of 'out of touch with the modern

Re: [Freedos-user] Strange timer-related issue

2012-04-07 Thread Ralf A. Quint
At 02:06 AM 4/7/2012, Zbigniew wrote: >2012/3/11, Bernd Blaauw : > > > Please let us know if/when you're able to pinpoint a culprit. > > You might want to start with a MSDOS/Win9x bootdisk (www.bootdisk.com) > > to eliminate FreeDOS components as the culprit, and to have a proven > > reference plat

Re: [Freedos-user] Getting Online With FreeDOS

2012-04-07 Thread Michael B. Brutman
Kenny, Try this for some basic education on DOS and packet drivers: http://brutman.com/Dos_Networking/dos_networking.html That page is terribly inadequate - it doesn't discuss anything other than packet drivers. But that is what you are looking for at the moment. To find the packet driver fo

Re: [Freedos-user] 32 bit FreeDOS?

2012-04-07 Thread Eric Auer
Hi! > FreeDOS is "only" 16bit Of course that only refers to address space (max 1.1 MB) and not to computation width. Your software can do any calculations with 32, 64, 80 or 128 bits that it likes, using 386+ registers or the FPU but not 64bit long mode. > I was wondering what would it take to

Re: [Freedos-user] Best GUIs for DOS

2012-04-07 Thread Zbigniew
2012/4/6, Eric Auer : > The most comprehensive GUIs are probably Windows (3.0, 3.1 or > Windows for Workgroups 3.11, all non-free, 3.x standard mode > works okay, WfW and 386enh mode can be hard, too much RAM as > well) and GEM. There is a free GEM distro by Shane, see also: There is also Geowork

Re: [Freedos-user] 32 bit FreeDOS?

2012-04-07 Thread Zbigniew
2012/4/7, Bernd Blaauw : >> I was wondering what would it take to upgrade FreeDOS to 32bit, >> whether it would be worth and whether we would have the human >> resources. > > 32bit user programs tend to be available already in the form of > protected mode software, using one of the various DOS Ext

Re: [Freedos-user] 32 bit FreeDOS?

2012-04-07 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 7-4-2012 12:15, Alex schreef: > I was wondering what would it take to upgrade FreeDOS to 32bit, > whether it would be worth and whether we would have the human > resources. 32bit user programs tend to be available already in the form of protected mode software, using one of the various DOS Ex

[Freedos-user] 32 bit FreeDOS?

2012-04-07 Thread Alex
In the recent threads there have been many mentions to the fact that FreeDOS is "only" 16bit (of course, that is what it is meant to be) and that it is out of touch with the modern computing world. I was wondering what would it take to upgrade FreeDOS to 32bit, whether it would be worth and whethe

Re: [Freedos-user] Strange timer-related issue

2012-04-07 Thread Zbigniew
2012/3/11, Bernd Blaauw : > Please let us know if/when you're able to pinpoint a culprit. > You might want to start with a MSDOS/Win9x bootdisk (www.bootdisk.com) > to eliminate FreeDOS components as the culprit, and to have a proven > reference platform. With a help of Ed (DXForth creator) the p