Re: limitations on jail style virtualization

2010-11-15 Thread Julian Elischer
On 11/14/10 11:43 PM, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: On Sun, 14 Nov 2010, Julian Elischer wrote: Julian, this sort of dovetails into something I've been thinking about for a while, which is NUMA support. really good thoughts, but bad timing and wrong target audience I think. I don't think the tho

Re: limitations on jail style virtualization

2010-11-14 Thread Bjoern A. Zeeb
On Sun, 14 Nov 2010, Julian Elischer wrote: Julian, this sort of dovetails into something I've been thinking about for a while, which is NUMA support. really good thoughts, but bad timing and wrong target audience I think. 1) first of all you want the basic underlying OS support all sort of

Re: limitations on jail style virtualization

2010-11-14 Thread Julian Elischer
On 11/13/10 8:27 PM, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: On Sat, 13 Nov 2010, Julian Elischer wrote: On 11/13/10 2:13 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: On 11/13/10 1:55 PM, Brandon Gooch wrote: On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: Was this brought up in any of the discussions? http://www.7he

Re: limitations on jail style virtualization

2010-11-13 Thread Bjoern A. Zeeb
On Sat, 13 Nov 2010, Julian Elischer wrote: On 11/13/10 2:13 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: On 11/13/10 1:55 PM, Brandon Gooch wrote: On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: Was this brought up in any of the discussions? http://www.7he.at/freebsd/vps/ no it was not brought up.

Re: limitations on jail style virtualization

2010-11-13 Thread Bjoern A. Zeeb
On Sat, 13 Nov 2010, Julian Elischer wrote: Hi Julian, It was only a short discussion among "non developers" during a short breakout session. the session was "what is this VIMAGE/jails thing"? and was not a dev-summit meeting but an "introduction to vimage" for end users. Ok. Thanks for th

Re: limitations on jail style virtualization

2010-11-13 Thread Julian Elischer
On 11/13/10 2:13 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: On 11/13/10 1:55 PM, Brandon Gooch wrote: On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: Was this brought up in any of the discussions? http://www.7he.at/freebsd/vps/ no it was not brought up.. it was an unofficial non-planned discussion

Re: limitations on jail style virtualization

2010-11-13 Thread Brandon Gooch
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: > We discussed this at MeetBSD last week and it woudl seem that the next > big hurdle for virtualization would seem to be a good concept to allow > jails to have virtual versions of various virtual devices.. > > for example > > pf has been vi

Re: limitations on jail style virtualization

2010-11-13 Thread Julian Elischer
On 11/13/10 1:55 PM, Brandon Gooch wrote: On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: Was this brought up in any of the discussions? http://www.7he.at/freebsd/vps/ no it was not brought up.. it was an unofficial non-planned discussion that errupted pretty much spontaneously an a

Re: limitations on jail style virtualization

2010-11-13 Thread Julian Elischer
On 11/13/10 1:30 PM, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: On Sat, 13 Nov 2010, Julian Elischer wrote: Hi Julian, We discussed this at MeetBSD last week and it woudl seem that the next big hurdle for virtualization would seem to be a good concept to allow jails to have virtual versions of various virtual devi

Re: limitations on jail style virtualization

2010-11-13 Thread Bjoern A. Zeeb
On Sat, 13 Nov 2010, Julian Elischer wrote: Hi Julian, We discussed this at MeetBSD last week and it woudl seem that the next big hurdle for virtualization would seem to be a good concept to allow jails to have virtual versions of various virtual devices.. for example pf has been virtualized

limitations on jail style virtualization

2010-11-13 Thread Julian Elischer
We discussed this at MeetBSD last week and it woudl seem that the next big hurdle for virtualization would seem to be a good concept to allow jails to have virtual versions of various virtual devices.. for example pf has been virtualized (when IS that patch going to get committed?) but pfsync