Re: ZFS - moving from a zraid1 to zraid2 pool with 1.5tb disks

On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 03:45:04PM +0200 I heard the voice of Daniel Kalchev, and lo! it spake thus: > > You should also know that having large L2ARC requires that you also > have larger ARC, because there are data pointers in the ARC that > point to the L2ARC data. Someone will do good to the com

Re: buildworld FAIL.

On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 02:25:01AM +0200 I heard the voice of Pawel Tyll, and lo! it spake thus: > > /usr/src/sbin/hastctl/../hastd/hast_proto.c:72: error: 'checksum_send' > undeclared here (not in a function) > /usr/src/sbin/hastctl/../hastd/hast_proto.c:72: error: 'checksum_recv' > undeclared

Re: buildworld FAIL.

On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 05:52:47AM -0700 I heard the voice of Jeremy Chadwick, and lo! it spake thus: > On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 09:04:42AM +0200, Pawel Tyll wrote: > > So was NO_OPENSSL deprecated or something? > > I think he's implying that hast indirectly relies upon OpenSSL. There's some condi

Re: Heads up: you'll need to do a fresh "config KERNEL" etc

On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 07:44:25AM -0400 I heard the voice of Rick Macklem, and lo! it spake thus: > > I thought that "config KERNEL" is what does that, but if buildkernel > does, then "config KERNEL" isn't needed. buildkernel always starts with a fresh 'config KERNEL' (unless you -DNO_KERNELCONFI

Re: ports index on FreeBSD 9

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 02:23:05PM +0100 I heard the voice of Matthew Seaman, and lo! it spake thus: > On 11/10/2011 12:31, George Kontostanos wrote: > > > I was wondering if there is any progress regarding the > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=149232 . > > Nope. But you can just do

Re: /usr/bin/unzip not being installed on 8.3-STABLE

On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 04:24:32PM -0400 I heard the voice of Jason Hellenthal, and lo! it spake thus: > > I have just noticed the following depicting unzip not being > updated/installed during a make installworld. >From a quick look at history, unzip was never connected to the build in 8.x, only

Re: /usr/bin/unzip not being installed on 8.3-STABLE

On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 04:39:40PM -0400 I heard the voice of Jason Hellenthal, and lo! it spake thus: > > Funny... so there are probably alot of machines running around with > old unzip binaries... including the already packaged releases. No, they wouldn't have _any_ unzip binaries. -- Matthe

Re: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 05:40:26PM -0700 I heard the voice of Sean Bruno, and lo! it spake thus: > > I don't know if anyone responded to your question here. I suspect > that the latest updates to xorg that have occured in freebsd will > support your video card. That's an Evergreen. UMS support

Re: less and vi fail on file whose name begins with +

On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 01:03:30AM -0400 I heard the voice of Thomas Mueller, and lo! it spake thus: > > Has anybody noticed this bug? It's not a bug really; both can take an argument starting with '+' for various things. -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fulle...@over-yonder.net Systems/Net

Re: kernel MCA messages

On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 08:20:35AM -0400 I heard the voice of John Baldwin, and lo! it spake thus: > > It is not private, it is in //depot/projects/mcelog/... in p4. Which may as well be Siberia for us lowly non-developers. Any chance you could stick a tarball or a patch against upstream mcelog s

Re: kernel MCA messages

On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 11:06:43AM -0400 I heard the voice of John Baldwin, and lo! it spake thus: > > It is actually public at perforce.freebsd.org. :) However, it is > tedious to download the files. Oh, I'd apparently blocked out of my mind that you could clicky-clicky files one at a time from

Re: Serious zfs slowdown when mixed with another file system (ufs/msdosfs/etc.).

On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 03:32:54AM +0200 I heard the voice of Pieter de Goeje, and lo! it spake thus: > > Note that I use a single filesystem for / and /usr. Obviously if > those are separate filesystems more NFS exports and mount commands > are necessary. Before the first run all immutable flags

Re: TTY task group scheduling

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 06:23:24PM + I heard the voice of Alexander Best, and lo! it spake thus: > > judging from the videos the changes are having a huge impact imo. Well, my (admittedly limited, and certainly anecdotal) experience is that Linux's interactive response when under heavy load w

Re: Panic in ZFS layer on 8.1-STABLE

On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:55:40PM +0100 I heard the voice of Jeremie Le Hen, and lo! it spake thus: > > I think running a 64 bits kernel would help a lot in that case. > Unfortunately I don't think my CPU supports the instruction set: It does. > AMD Features=0x2000 LM = Long Mode All th

Re: MCA messages after upgrade to 8.2-BEAT1

On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 09:57:26AM -0500 I heard the voice of John Baldwin, and lo! it spake thus: > > You are getting corrected ECC errors in your RAM. Actually, don't > CPU 0 0 data cache > ADDR 236493c0 > Data cache ECC error (syndrome 1c) > CPU 0 1 instruction cache > ADDR 2a1c9440 >

Re: changing a ports final destination via make knobs question...

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 06:04:36PM -0500 I heard the voice of Paul Schmehl, and lo! it spake thus: > > If you plan on doing this often, pkgtools.conf is your best bet. If you > plan on doing it once, commandline is probably the easiest and quickest. I would say using ports-mgmt/portconf would b

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 04:25:21PM -0500 I heard the voice of Alex Goncharov, and lo! it spake thus: > > Csup can only go forward -- or can it go back?) You can specify a date in a supfile since, like, ever. -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fulle...@over-yonder.net Systems/Network Administra

Re: hardware for home use large storage

On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 03:56:46PM +1030 I heard the voice of Daniel O'Connor, and lo! it spake thus: > > I have something similar (5x1Tb) - I have a Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H > with an Athlon X2 and 4Gb of RAM (only half filled - 2x2Gb) > > [...] > > Note that it doesn't support ECC, I don't know

Re: hardware for home use large storage

On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 04:37:50PM +1030 I heard the voice of Daniel O'Connor, and lo! it spake thus: > > Probably the result of idiotic penny pinching though :-/ Irritating. One of my favorite parts of AMD's amd64 chips is that I no longer have to spend through the nose or be a detective (or, o

Re: ntpd struggling to keep up - how to fix?

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 05:11:17AM -0800 I heard the voice of Jeremy Chadwick, and lo! it spake thus: > > I highly recommend putting some comments around it though so in the > future you don't go "What's this? Silly!" and delete it. ;-) But do delete it every once in a while. My experience over

Re: ntpd struggling to keep up - how to fix?

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:46:04AM -0800 I heard the voice of Jeremy Chadwick, and lo! it spake thus: > > Technical footnote: I wish I understood 1) the difference between > ACPI-safe and ACPI-fast, AIUI, they're nearly the same thing, and it has to do with some testing to determine how it can be

Re: ZFS tuning [was: hardware for home use large storage]

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 08:49:38PM -0500 I heard the voice of jhell, and lo! it spake thus: > > As I make final modifications to the script I will keep the below > URLs updated and welcome any bug reports or modification requests to > me personally. Well, here's one: > OS Revision:

Re: Powerd and est / eist functionality

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 06:04:51PM -0700 I heard the voice of John Long, and lo! it spake thus: > >> The i3/i5/i7 chips don't appear to offer ECC framework on their >> memory controllers (which are now on-die as I'm sure you know), >> which is why I plan to stay away from them for servers. > > I ag

Re: FreeBSD 13/stable and zpool upgrade

On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 10:26:15PM +0100 I heard the voice of Kurt Jaeger, and lo! it spake thus: > > We do not need it automated. We need it to be described in enough > detail that we can write that BOOTx64.efi to the proper place. If > there are some steps to find out where to write it etc., fin

Re: branch 9 and uefi

On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 06:08:31PM +0200 I heard the voice of Zoran Kolic, and lo! it spake thus: > > It took me by surprise. The mobo I have on my mind for new desktop > has uefi instead of bios. It is asus m5a97, with 970 chipset, well > priced among users on the net. How would it behave with 9.

Re: branch 9 and uefi

On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 05:37:01PM +0200 I heard the voice of Zoran Kolic, and lo! it spake thus: > > Hurrah! I shall get a bit cheaper version, plain m5a97 or pro. AFAIK, the only difference between the plain M5A97 and the Evo is that the Evo has better VRM's. If you're overclocking a 125w CPU,

Re: amdtemp does not find my CPU.

On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 08:04:04PM -0400 I heard the voice of ill...@gmail.com, and lo! it spake thus: > > Just an aside (as I note you've got it nailed down), but AFIK the E-450 > is a K-10 core not a K-8. None of the above. E-450 is a Bobcat. -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fulle...@ove

Re: What is the Right Way(™) to run X?

On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 10:37:08PM +1030 I heard the voice of Daniel O'Connor, and lo! it spake thus: > Hi, > I recently updated my 9.1-PRE system's ports and my previous X > config now results in no mouse (but the keyboard does work). > > I found that I needed to add the following.. > Section "Se

Re: shutdown -r / shutdown -h / reboot all hang and don't cleanly dismount

On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 08:04:14AM -0700 I heard the voice of Jeremy Chadwick, and lo! it spake thus: > > > Readers: if any of you have a ST[123]000DM001 drive running the CC24 > firmware, and can confirm high head parking counts (SMART attribute > 193), and are willing to upgrade your drive firm

Re: shutdown -r / shutdown -h / reboot all hang and don't cleanly dismount

On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 09:16:35AM -0700 I heard the voice of Jeremy Chadwick, and lo! it spake thus: > > The above CDB + subcommand disables APM entirely. There is a lot > more to APM than just parking heads (and in all honesty, APM should > have nothing to do with parking heads). Disabling APM

Re: shutdown -r / shutdown -h / reboot all hang and don't cleanly dismount

On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 09:52:00AM -0700 I heard the voice of Jeremy Chadwick, and lo! it spake thus: > > Justified in your environment, but not in mine -- where most of my > systems (at home) are extremely quiet (1000-1200rpm fans, lots of > noise dampening material, etc.). A 10C increase *durin

Re: make buildworld is now 50% slower

Apropos of nothing, but... On Sun, Jul 07, 2013 at 03:17:14AM -0700 I heard the voice of Jeremy Chadwick, and lo! it spake thus: > > WITHOUT_LIB32=true suggests you're running amd64, which I'm pretty sure means > - I do increase kern.maxdsiz, kern.dfldsiz, and kern.maxssiz in > /boot/loader.conf

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 10:23:58AM + I heard the voice of Alex Zbyslaw, and lo! it spake thus: > > Of course, with modern systems where nroff-ing a man page takes > negligible time and system resources, it could also be argued that > cat-ed man pages should be a thing of the past :-) Quite.

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 08:08:31PM +0100 I heard the voice of Bernd Walter, and lo! it spake thus: > > I don't completly agree. > Many people forget that FreeBSD is used on slow embedded systems as > well and I prefer having manpoages there as well. Oh, I don't argue that there are cases where ca

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 01:43:41PM +0100 I heard the voice of Bernd Walter, and lo! it spake thus: > > Show me the positives that outweights the negatives and I'm on your > side. Why do you think we're on different sides to begin with? I've not advocated removing catman capability, or denied that

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 11:28:43AM + I heard the voice of Alex Zbyslaw, and lo! it spake thus: > > In addition, considering an *option* to simply not have cat-ed > manual pages (for people with machines fast enough to just not care, > or who have machines where you just don't read man pages of

Re: /boot size in 7.0 beta3

On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 05:32:41PM -0800 I heard the voice of Doug Hardie, and lo! it spake thus: > > Between 6.2 and 7 /boot has grown from 45 MB to 114 MB. That poses > a significant issue for those of us who have been running production > systems for many years. I have the root partition set t

Re: /boot size in 7.0 beta3

On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 12:56:06AM -1000 I heard the voice of Parv, and lo! it spake thus: > > So, just what have you been stuffing in /? kernel.debug for one thing. But that's not what really kills it; it's when there are TWO kernel.debug's in the time between starting the upgrade and being sur

Re: BETA4 - acpi.thermal.tz0 always at 40,0C

On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 10:53:20AM +0100 I heard the voice of [EMAIL PROTECTED], and lo! it spake thus: > > $ sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 40,0C > > motherboard is a Asus M2A-VM, version is FreeBSD 7.0-BETA4 amd64 I have the same board running on i3

Re: 7.1-R to RELENG_7 upgrade breaks re nic

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 10:47:07PM -0500 I heard the voice of Steve Wills, and lo! it spake thus: > > re0: Gigabit Ethernet> port 0x7e00-0x7eff mem 0xfd3ff000-0xfd3f, > 0xfd3f8000-0xfd3fbfff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci8 > re0: Chip rev. 0x2800 > re0: MAC rev. 0x0010 For a data point

Re: Have I got this VIMAGE setup correct?

On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 12:05:07PM -0500 I heard the voice of Garrett Wollman, and lo! it spake thus: > > The consensus when I asked seemed to be that VIMAGE+jail was the > right combination to give every container its own private loopback > interface, so I tried to build that. I noticed a few thi

Re: sed command does not behave equal from 10.3 to 11.0

On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 09:45:23AM +0100 I heard the voice of krad, and lo! it spake thus: > are you sure you aren't hitting a port or something? Locale dependant. % echo "abc_ABC.def" | env LANG=C sed -e 's/[^A-Z0-9]//g' ABC % echo "abc_ABC.def" | env LANG=en_US.UTF-8 sed -e 's/[^A-Z0-9]//g' bc

Re: buildworld errors at outset on fresh svn checkout

On Fri, Oct 07, 2016 at 10:13:02PM -0700 I heard the voice of Kevin Oberman, and lo! it spake thus: > On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 10:16 PM, Scott Bennett wrote: > > > "/usr/src/Makefile.inc1", line 1113: Malformed conditional > > (${BUILDKERNELS:[) > > Unknown modifier '[' > > '[' needs to be a hard

Re: 6.1 quota issues

On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 10:56:47PM -0400 I heard the voice of Charles Sprickman, and lo! it spake thus: > > Trying again, it reported the same inconsistencies then sat there > for more than an hour taking up all the available CPU on the box > until I killed it. The mtime on quota.user had not cha

Re: HEADS UP: FreeBSD 5.3, 5.4, 6.0 EoLs coming soon

On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 10:48:52PM +0800 I heard the voice of Eugene Grosbein, and lo! it spake thus: > > 4.11-STABLE: > fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 ^^^ > 6.2-PRERELEASE: > fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f0 irq 6 drq 2 on ac

Re: Downgrade to 5.5

On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 09:56:03AM +0100 I heard the voice of Albert Shih, and lo! it spake thus: > > make installkernel on /usr/src from 5.x > reboot > make installworld. This is highly likely (one might almost say "assured") to not work, since the 5.x kernel isn't going to be a

Re: Problems unmounting/fssyncking extern UFS filesystem

On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 05:37:58AM +1100 I heard the voice of Peter Jeremy, and lo! it spake thus: > > All current Un*x filesystems will automatically flush all buffers as > part of the unmount process That Depends(tm), partly on what you mean by 'unmount'. With my Nov05 and Jun06 -CURRENT's, I

Re: Problems unmounting/fssyncking extern UFS filesystem

On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 12:18:03AM +0100 I heard the voice of O. Hartmann, and lo! it spake thus: > Ronald Klop wrote: > > > > IMHO: Please discuss this on [EMAIL PROTECTED] And read > > the handbook (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook) about > > releases/versions/branches. -CURRENT is known to have b

Re: php5.0.3_1 doesn't run after update

On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 04:16:51PM -0500 I heard the voice of bob, and lo! it spake thus: > > I am running 4.10 stable. > > I upgraded to php5.0.3_1 by: > > cvsup > portsdb -Uu > pkgdb -vuf > portupgrade -v php5-session > portupgrade -v php5-mysql > ... > portupgrade -v php5 you need to update

Re: SSH Protocol mismatch

On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 04:05:11AM +0800 I heard the voice of CryBaby, and lo! it spake thus: > OS: FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE #3: Fri Jan 14 23:53:07 CST 2005 > > I ssh my host by using putty or any ssh client in WindowsXP, and I > can't login lately. (But telnet and other services are ok.) Check that

Re: Sound problem

On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 01:49:22PM +0200 I heard the voice of Cristiano Deana, and lo! it spake thus: > > if it loaded something you will find your right sound module listed > there. Not always, actually. My card uses snd_mss, but it took me a whole bunch of loading and unloading to find that ou

Re: g_vfs_done() failures on 6.2-RC1

On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 12:25:49AM -0700 I heard the voice of Scott Long, and lo! it spake thus: > > You mention that you are using a driver from the Areca website. > Have you tried using the stock driver that comes with FreeBSD? I > don't know if it will be better or not, but I was planning on d

Re: Background fsck causes kernel panic

On Tue, Dec 26, 2006 at 10:47:25PM -0500 I heard the voice of Kris Kennaway, and lo! it spake thus: > > As you discovered, the solution is to force a fsck to repair all > corruption and then proceed (optionally disabling bg fsck > permanently to prevent a recurrence ;-) Is it time yet to have ano

Re: Migrating from x86 (32) to amd64

On Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 08:54:42PM +0300 I heard the voice of Artem Kuchin, and lo! it spake thus: > > Theoretically, what would be the procedure? - Do a full cross-build of the amd64 world/kernel. - newfs your swap partition (or an extra partition/drive). - installworld/kernel the amd64 stuff ont

Re: Testing UFS/Snapshots/Quotas on -STABLE

On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 09:50:54AM -0500 I heard the voice of Doug Poland, and lo! it spake thus: > > In addition, it appears that compiling support for quotas in the > kernel will force the Giant lock on UFS and I want to make sure I > won't have a performance regression on the filesystem. I can

Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.)

On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 10:43:12AM +1100 I heard the voice of Andrew Reilly, and lo! it spake thus: > > Matrox used to have a reputation for goodness (I used to have a G400 > or the like), but it's been a long time... I'm sitting on a G450 here. Works great. I've never heard anything bad about

Re: Making /var/mail mode 1777 (was Re: Installing sendmail SUID installworld suggestion)

On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 11:35:45AM +0100 I heard the voice of Oliver Fromme, and lo! it spake thus: > > What's the best way to prevent that? I tried editing the > appropriate mtree file, but that feels like a hack rather > than a clean solution. Well, I did it by the hack of stuffing a 'chmod 17

Re: Making /var/mail mode 1777 (was Re: Installing sendmail SUID installworld suggestion)

On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 01:06:57PM +0200 I heard the voice of Danny Braniss, and lo! it spake thus: > > in /etc/mtree/BSD.var.dist, change Yah, but you have to remember and maintain that across upgrades. In rc.local, it's set-and-forget. > see also /etc/rc.d/var That hack landed and was near-f

Re: 5.x to 6.x source update, bootblocks?

On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 01:54:15AM -0400 I heard the voice of Charles Sprickman, and lo! it spake thus: > > I've been running around upgrading some boxes to 6.2 from 4.11 using > the directions in UPDATING. I noticed that in the 4.x to 5.x step > it's basically mandatory to install the new bootlo

Re: Broken kde3 from ports, not downloading what it's supposed to. Will not compile; need advice please.

On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 11:49:46AM -0800 I heard the voice of Ryan R, and lo! it spake thus: > On 2/9/06, Ryan R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Oh dear. > > > > I've got to do a make clean before trying the 'make install' > > again?! > > > > I spent hours compiling already :-( You don't have to cl

Re: install FreeBSS 6 from an existing filesystem?

On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 11:35:57PM +0100 I heard the voice of Torfinn Ingolfsen, and lo! it spake thus: > > The laptop has a FreeBSD-4.11 install on slice 1 of the disk, and > the other half is free for my 6.0 installation. Actually, the easiest thing to do in this case is probably to label and ne

Re: calcru: negative time (Interrupt Storm on cpu0: timer)

On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 12:09:34AM +0100 I heard the voice of Frank Steinborn, and lo! it spake thus: > > cpu0: timer158483081 2000 That's not a storm, that's normal. -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systems/Network Administrator | http://www.over

Re: Ifconfig with rc.conf Broken

On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 01:56:47PM -0600 I heard the voice of James Wyatt, and lo! it spake thus: > > Don't alias interfaces have to be added to the "network_interfaces=" > line? I thought only "real" interfaces were autodetected... I think you're thinking of interface name aliases, not additiona

Re: FreeBSD 2.2.9 Released

On Sun, Apr 02, 2006 at 12:02:38PM +0200 I heard the voice of Patrick M. Hausen, and lo! it spake thus: > > That will be 1.1.5.2, of course. RELENG_1 is in maintenance mode, > now. Y'know, I DO have a box running RELENG_2_1_0... -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systems/Net

Re: Pros and Cons of amd64 (versus i386).

On Sat, Apr 08, 2006 at 06:00:56PM -0600 I heard the voice of Scott Long, and lo! it spake thus: > > Modern disks (I don't know how to define a cutoff to this term, > unfortunately) definitely put more bits onto the outer rim of the > platter than the inner rim. Pretty much any disk you'd current

Re: Pros and Cons of amd64 (versus i386).

On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 10:02:34AM -0400 I heard the voice of Christian Lopez de Castilla Wagner, and lo! it spake thus: > > As you can see, the outside is more than twice as fast in this case. > Just a guess, since both are IBM disks: You're using a > Workstation/Server disk, which probably perfo

Re: RELENG_4 -> 5 -> 6: significant performance regression

On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 03:01:18AM -0400 I heard the voice of Jonathan Noack, and lo! it spake thus: > > Have you tried putting I586_CPU in there? See > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2005-December/020696.html. As Peter Jeremy mentioned in

INVARIANTS (was Re: RELENG_4 -> 5 -> 6: significant performance regression)

On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 10:37:40AM -0400 I heard the voice of Kris Kennaway, and lo! it spake thus: > > With respect to INVARIANTS, you just need to get used to the fact > that running thousands of checks for bugs is incompatible with > running at optimal speed. (I'm not sure what the point of sa

Re: INVARIANTS (was Re: RELENG_4 -> 5 -> 6: significant performance regression)

On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 11:58:26AM -0400 I heard the voice of Kris Kennaway, and lo! it spake thus: > > FYI, INVARIANTS adds checks but does not (is not supposed to) divert > code paths. It does at least in UMA; it does a lot of bzero()/NULL'ing out of memory, which might hide later uninitialized

Re: long timeout on boot

On Sat, Jun 03, 2006 at 10:48:43AM +1000 I heard the voice of Antony Mawer, and lo! it spake thus: > > ... but there have been a huge number of commits over the recent few > years. I believe the actual culprit is GEOM tasting (or trying to taste) the media, and not getting the message that there

Re: Dual Opteron system will not run SMP

On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 12:37:58PM +0100 I heard the voice of Pete French, and lo! it spake thus: > > I had been wondering what 'safe' does differently, and whether I > could fill up loader.conf with approrpiate values to emulate what > 'safe' does and then start commenting them out one at a time.

Re: How can I know which files a proccess is accessing?

On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 02:14:01PM -0700 I heard the voice of Clint Olsen, and lo! it spake thus: > > Linux has a cool program: lsof (list open files). Does FreeBSD have > something similar? fstat. (or lsof in ports, if you wanted) -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | [EMAIL PROTECTED] System

Re: vmstat 'b' (disk busy?) field keeps climbing ...

On Fri, Jun 23, 2006 at 07:12:54PM -0300 I heard the voice of Marc G. Fournier, and lo! it spake thus: > > 31750 vnode pager pageins >209538 vnode pager pages paged in > 15954 vnode pager pageouts >219494 vnode pager pages paged out This may be something to look at. My workstatio

Re: vmstat 'b' (disk busy?) field keeps climbing ...

On Fri, Jun 23, 2006 at 10:02:22PM -0300 I heard the voice of Marc G. Fournier, and lo! it spake thus: > > Which is odd, no, if I'm hardly swapping? Well, > >>31750 vnode pager pageins > >>15954 vnode pager pageouts It's the vnode pager, not the swap pager. AIUI, that's mostly paging i

Re: vmstat 'b' (disk busy?) field keeps climbing ...

On Fri, Jun 23, 2006 at 11:38:44PM -0400 I heard the voice of Chuck Swiger, and lo! it spake thus: > > Yeah-- it's more common for a system to need more RAM for dynamicly > allocated content which would be placed into the swapfile then it > uses binary executable pages, it's possible to go the oth

Re: vmstat 'b' (disk busy?) field keeps climbing ...

On Fri, Jun 23, 2006 at 08:33:05PM -0500 I heard the voice of Matthew D. Fuller, and lo! it spake thus: > > It's the vnode pager, not the swap pager. AIUI, that's mostly > paging in and out pages of running binaries (from the image on > disk), not moving stuff in and out o

Re: Gigabit ethernet very slow.

On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 05:05:26PM +1000 I heard the voice of Michael Vince, and lo! it spake thus: > > According to pftop (with modulate state rules) I am able to get > about 85megs/sec when I don't have dd running. dd does indeed eats a > fair amount of cpu (40%) on the AMD64 6-stable machine.

Re: FreeBSD 6.x CVSUP today crashes with zero load ...

On Tue, Jun 27, 2006 at 01:16:11PM + I heard the voice of Eprha Carvajal, and lo! it spake thus: > > I see no ACPI capability in the processor features ACPI is not a CPU feature. -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systems/Network Administrator | http://www.over-yonder.n

Re: FreeBSD 6.x CVSUP today crashes with zero load ...

On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 10:29:04AM -0400 I heard the voice of John Baldwin, and lo! it spake thus: > > There is an 'ACPI' feature bit, but I think it has to do with > preserving the TSC rate while the CPU is throttled. It's not > required for core ACPI operation. Ah, well, I stand corrected. I

Re: load > 1, no process using >10% CPU...?

On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 10:05:24PM -0400 I heard the voice of Damian Gerow, and lo! it spake thus: > > It turned out to be a runaway xmms process. But I still find it > strange that it didn't show anything obvious in top. Threaded processes don't rack up CPU%. It's an (annoying) side effect of

Re: Problems with 5.x

On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 06:27:17PM +0200 I heard the voice of Torfinn Ingolfsen, and lo! it spake thus: > On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:57:38 -0400 > Matt Emmerton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The machine is a clunker - P2-266 with 48MB RAM and a couple of > > 2GB ATA drives. > > And you are not runnin

Re: SMP support maturity? AMD64x2 or FX-57?

On Fri, Jul 22, 2005 at 01:27:30PM -0700 I heard the voice of Frank Mayhar, and lo! it spake thus: > > Sigh. You know, I've been running with two processors since 4.1 or > thereabouts. Sure, the BGL scheme is inefficient as far as the > kernel itself is concerned, but for compute-bound user proc

Re: i386 vs amd64 - benchmark results

On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 11:52:30AM -0400 I heard the voice of Vivek Khera, and lo! it spake thus: > > The amd64 memory architecture is NUMA -- that is, depending on how > your RAM is layed out, some of it is faster to access for each > processor. Accessing RAM "local" to the other processor(s) i

Re: Freebsd 5.3 screw up.... deleted /lib/libc.so.5

On Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 05:29:36PM -0800 I heard the voice of David Kirchner, and lo! it spake thus: > > There is still hope however -- the /rescue directory contains a > statically linked binary and a whole bunch of hardlinks, including > 'mount' and 'cp'. If you can get libc.so.5 onto a floppy s

Re: top(1) displaying threads

On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 06:55:19PM +0200 I heard the voice of Niki Denev, and lo! it spake thus: > > But the top(1) manual page still says that the default behaviour is > NOT to show them. Because it's true. H mode shows the kernel-visible threads INDEPENDENTLY. Of course, it would be neat if w

Re: cpu-timer rate

On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 09:42:08AM +0100 I heard the voice of kama, and lo! it spake thus: > > I appreciate that you took time to answer about the different > clocks. But that does not answer why vmstat -i shows a rate of 2000 > when I have set the hz to 1000. Because the rate is always twice hz.

Re: cpu-timer rate

On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 10:15:52AM -0800 I heard the voice of Kevin Oberman, and lo! it spake thus: > > From: "Matthew D. Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Because the rate is always twice hz. > > While I will concede that I have no explanation, but

Re: Upgrading 5.3 > 6.0 buildworld failure now in libmagic

On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 08:34:42PM +1100 I heard the voice of Peter Jeremy, and lo! it spake thus: > On Wed, 2005-Dec-07 13:34:53 -0800, Vizion wrote: > >development is so good. It deserves better and more professional > >attention to the role of end user documentation. > > Are you volunteering?

Re: permanent per month panic on 5.4-p4

On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 09:50:50AM +0200 I heard the voice of Oleg Palij, and lo! it spake thus: > > Unfortunately this trace looks corrupted. Are you building your > > kernel with -O2? > > I guess that no. Isn't -O2 the default now if you're not explicitly setting it otherwise? -- Matthew Ful

Re: HEADS UP: Release schedule for 2006

On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 02:59:09PM + I heard the voice of Joao Barros, and lo! it spake thus: > > There have been some questions on the lists about what to expect > from release x.y and I personnally have always looked at the TODO > list like http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.0R/todo.html It'

Re: Fast releases demand binary updates.. (Was: Release schedule for 2006)

On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 02:00:21PM -0800 I heard the voice of Joe Rhett, and lo! it spake thus: > > Increasing the number of deployed systems out of date [...] This doesn't make any sense. If you install a 6.0 system, in 6 months (assuming you installed it right when 6.0 was cut, for simplicity)

Re: Fast releases demand binary updates.. (Was: Release schedule for 2006)

On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 01:09:04PM -0800 I heard the voice of Jo Rhett, and lo! it spake thus: > > No, you're missing the point. More core OS upgrades means less > incremental patches (which are easier to apply than a full update). Right. I don't understand how B follows A here. These patches

Re: gmirror SCSI+IDE

On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 05:23:48PM -0500 I heard the voice of Martin Cracauer, and lo! it spake thus: > Ivan Voras wrote on Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 06:39:18PM +0100: > > > For example, AFAIK SCSI devices are under Giant and IDE are not > > In 6.x and 7.x both are finer-graded. I wish somebody wou

Re: Fast releases demand binary updates.. (Was: Release schedule for 2006 )

On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 09:51:15AM +0100 I heard the voice of Patrick M. Hausen, and lo! it spake thus: > > Any suggestions for an alternative to NFS if your 'client' servers > are located "all over the world" and you want to installworld across > the Internet? I was planning to use NFS/TCP secure

Re: 5-port (NEC) USB-2.0 PCI card support?

On Sun, Jan 01, 2006 at 01:31:48PM +1100 I heard the voice of Andrew Reilly, and lo! it spake thus: > > Hmm. No, nothing at all. (And it also clearly shows that the piece > of dmesg.boot that I posted ([EMAIL PROTECTED]:7:3) was part of the Intel > PIIX4 chipset.) FWIW, I've got an Adaptec 4-po

Re: [6.0-RELEASE] Trouble with Intel-SATA-RAID Controller

On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 02:44:59PM +0100 I heard the voice of Raphael H. Becker, and lo! it spake thus: Note that this: > 3ware: > * 3ware Raid Controller Escalade 8006-2LP, 2 Channels, about 130-150 EUR is a "real" hardware RAID controller, while I'm pretty sure that this: > highpoint: >

Re: FreeBSD 4.9 won't upgrade ?

[ Redirecting to -stable, where it's more appropriate ] On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 07:31:10PM -0500 I heard the voice of Jim Keller, and lo! it spake thus: > > I go through the whole process, and although it does appear to > recompile the system (my openssl went from the original distro to > the newe

Re: mergemaster: what if I want both left and right?

On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 11:28:31PM -0800 I heard the voice of James Long, and lo! it spake thus: > > How can I tell mergemaster something like, "insert the left alternative > first, followed by the right alternative" or vice versa, right first, then > left? Must I just edit the file(s) manually?

Re: bug in pw, -STABLE [patch]

Sorry for the slooow response, I've had problems you wouldn't believe with my email... On Fri, May 17, 2002 at 06:40:57PM -0400 I heard the voice of Geoffrey C. Speicher, and lo! it spake thus: > > 1. The lock isn't very fine-grained. We grab one giant lock before > doing any operation

Re: bug in pw, -STABLE [patch]

On Sun, Jun 23, 2002 at 09:00:52AM -0700 I heard the voice of Paul Herman, and lo! it spake thus: > On Sun, 23 Jun 2002, Geoffrey C. Speicher wrote: > > How so? I'm not suggesting unlink(2)ing /etc/master.passwd or > /etc/spwd.db at all. No, but pw(8) does; making it not do so would require rea

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