Re: SCHED_ULE should not be the default

2011-12-12 Thread Lars Engels
Did you use -jX to build the world? _ Von: Gary Jennejohn Versendet am: Mon Dec 12 16:32:21 MEZ 2011 An: Vincent Hoffman CC: "O. Hartmann" , Current FreeBSD , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-performa...@freebsd.org Betreff: Re: SCHED_ULE should n

Re: SCHED_ULE should not be the default

2011-12-12 Thread Lars Engels
Would it be possible to implement a mechanism that lets one change the scheduler on the fly? Afaik Solaris can do that. _ Von: Steve Kargl Versendet am: Mon Dec 12 16:51:59 MEZ 2011 An: "O. Hartmann" CC: freebsd-performa...@freebsd.org, Current FreeBS

Re: SCHED_ULE should not be the default

2011-12-15 Thread Lars Engels
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 02:20:04PM -, Steven Hartland wrote: > With all the discussion I thought I'd give a buildworld > benchmark a go here on a spare 24 core machine. ULE > tested fine but with 4BSD it wont even boot panicing > with the following:- > http://screensnapr.com/v/hwysGV.png > > T

Re: FLAME - security advisories on the 23rd ? uncool idea is uncool

2011-12-23 Thread Lars Engels
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 06:30:59PM +0100, Bas Smeelen wrote: > > These vulnerabilities are known many days before in other distributions . > > >Thank you very much . > > >Mehmet Erol Sanliturk > > you're right, these were discussed on the mailinglists also > _but_ FreeBSD is not a distribution >

Re: New BSD Installer

2012-02-14 Thread Lars Engels
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 04:15:17AM +1100, Ian Smith wrote: > On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 15:32:51 +, Bruce Cran wrote: > > On 2/10/2012 7:47 PM, Alex Samorukov wrote: > > > I am highly against reverting. Old installer is not GPT aware and in fact > > > is unmaintained for a very long time. > > >

Re: [CFT] modular kernel config

2012-02-23 Thread Lars Engels
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 09:18:08AM +0100, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > Quoting "Bjoern A. Zeeb" (from Wed, > 22 Feb 2012 22:31:36 +): > > > On 21. Feb 2012, at 13:35 , Alexander Leidinger wrote: > > > >> You can download from > >> http://www.Leidinger.net/FreeBSD/current-patches/ > >> The

Re: Restricting users from certain privileges

2012-04-28 Thread Lars Engels
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 11:47:07AM +0200, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: > Hi, all, > > Am 28.04.2012 um 11:39 schrieb Eugene Grosbein: > > > 28.04.2012 14:50, Zenny ??: > > > >>> try sudo from ports, security/sudo > >>> > >>> cheers, > >>> danny > >>> > >>> > >> Thanks Daniel, but su

Re: Why Are You Using FreeBSD?

2012-05-31 Thread Lars Engels
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 12:06:55PM +0200, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > > On 5/30/12 8:20 PM, David Chisnall wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > > > This is off-topic, so please feel free to disregard it, but I'm sending it > > to this list in the hope that it will reach a largish number of users. > > > >

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread Lars Engels
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 08:32:08PM +0100, Chris Rees wrote: > On 1 June 2012 16:20, Nomen Nescio wrote: > >> Dear All , > >> > >> There is a thread > >> > >> "Why Are You Using FreeBSD ?" > >> > >> > >> I think another thread with the specified subject   '"Why Are You NOT Using > >> FreeBSD ?" may

Re: Mergemaster Fails

2012-06-07 Thread Lars Engels
On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 10:05:24AM -0700, Thomas D. Dean wrote: > On 06/06/12 21:20, Chris Nehren wrote: > > > Have you tried ctrl-t? This will send SIGINFO to the process which > > No response to any key except ^z Doesn't ^t work at all for you? If you're using tcsh and some *rxvt terminal emul

Re: ULE Scheduler

2012-06-12 Thread Lars Engels
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 09:06:26PM +0200, wrote: > At Sat, 09 Jun 2012 20:23:44 -0700, > Doug Barton wrote: > > > > On 06/06/2012 18:16, Doug Barton wrote: > > > On 06/06/2012 18:01, wrote: > > >> Is there some remedy? > > > > > > Try the 4BSD s

Re: 8.1-RELEASE: snd_hda works as module only, suspend/resume leaves display off

2010-11-15 Thread Lars Engels
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 10:37:09AM +0100, Stefan Walter wrote: > Hi, > [...] > The other problem is with suspend/resume: > > Suspend To RAM (S3) works by using "acpiconf -s 3", and pushing the power > button wakes the system up again. Everything seems to work, only the LCD > monitor remains off.

Re: 8.1-RELEASE: snd_hda works as module only, suspend/resume leaves display off

2010-11-16 Thread Lars Engels
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 08:06:01PM +0100, Stefan Walter wrote: > Bruce Cran, 16.11.10, 15:44h CET: > > > On Monday 15 November 2010 09:37:09 Stefan Walter wrote: > > > > > Suspend To RAM (S3) works by using "acpiconf -s 3", and pushing the power > > > button wakes the system up again. Everything

Re: Backport of glxsb(4) to RELENG_6

2009-02-10 Thread Lars Engels
Quoting Patrick Lamaizière : Hi, I've backported the glxsb(4) driver to RELENG_6 (to use it on FreeNAS by instance). http://user.lamaiziere.net/patrick/glxsb-6-100209.tar.gz I am not able to test it, but I hope it will work. You can test with openssl: openssl enc -e -aes-128-cbc -in file -o

Re: Backport of glxsb(4) to RELENG_6

2009-02-12 Thread Lars Engels
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 01:44:21PM +0100, Patrick Lamaizière wrote: > Hi, > > I've backported the glxsb(4) driver to RELENG_6 (to use it on FreeNAS by > instance). > > http://user.lamaiziere.net/patrick/glxsb-6-100209.tar.gz > > I am not able to test it, but I hope it will work. > > You can tes

Re: Backport of glxsb(4) to RELENG_6

2009-02-21 Thread Lars Engels
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 09:05:16PM +0100, Patrick Lamaizière wrote: > Le Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:43:33 +0100, > Patrick Lamaizière : > > > Le Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:34:43 +0100, > > Lars Engels : > > > > Hi, > > > > > I just tried it, but I get th

Re: Thinkpad X61s cannot boot 9.1-BETA1

2012-08-22 Thread Lars Engels
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 07:50:27PM +0200, Martin Dieringer wrote: > On Tue, 31 Jul 2012, John Baldwin wrote: > > > On Friday, July 20, 2012 10:11:33 am jb wrote: > > > Did anyone else experience this? With 9.1-BETA1 the boot process > > freezes, among the last lines with verbose boot are

Re: Thinkpad X61s cannot boot 9.1-BETA1

2012-08-22 Thread Lars Engels
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 02:47:09PM +0200, Thomas Steen Rasmussen wrote: > > On 22-08-2012 11:33, Lars Engels wrote: > > > > I have a T61 running 9.1-BETA1 (with PC-BSD). In most cases it is > > booting fine, but from time to time it hangs at boot time but the last >

Re: Thinkpad X61s cannot boot 9.1-BETA1

2012-09-12 Thread Lars Engels
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 08:02:12PM +0200, Thomas Steen Rasmussen wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 22-08-2012 18:52, Lars Engels wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 02:47:09PM +0200, Thomas Steen Rasmussen wrote: > >> > >>

Re: Thinkpad X61s cannot boot 9.1-BETA1

2012-09-12 Thread Lars Engels
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 03:54:30PM +0300, Andriy Gapon wrote: > on 12/09/2012 14:34 Lars Engels said the following: > > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 08:02:12PM +0200, Thomas Steen Rasmussen wrote: > >> > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >

Re: Thinkpad X61s cannot boot 9.1-BETA1

2012-09-12 Thread Lars Engels
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 08:30:36PM +0300, Andriy Gapon wrote: > on 12/09/2012 20:25 Lars Engels said the following: > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 03:54:30PM +0300, Andriy Gapon wrote: > >> Could you try to play with different eventtimer settings (preferably in > >> curre

Re: Thinkpad X61s cannot boot 9.1-BETA1

2012-09-12 Thread Lars Engels
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 09:58:31PM +0300, Alexander Motin wrote: > On 12.09.2012 20:46, Lars Engels wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 08:30:36PM +0300, Andriy Gapon wrote: > >> on 12/09/2012 20:25 Lars Engels said the following: > >>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 03:54:

Re: Thinkpad X61s cannot boot 9.1-BETA1

2012-09-13 Thread Lars Engels
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:08:25PM +0300, Alexander Motin wrote: > On 12.09.2012 22:58, Lars Engels wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 09:58:31PM +0300, Alexander Motin wrote: > >> On 12.09.2012 20:46, Lars Engels wrote: > >>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 08:30:36PM +0300,

Re: Thinkpad X61s cannot boot 9.1-BETA1

2012-09-14 Thread Lars Engels
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 07:58:11PM +0300, Alexander Motin wrote: > On 13.09.2012 10:44, Lars Engels wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:08:25PM +0300, Alexander Motin wrote: > >> On 12.09.2012 22:58, Lars Engels wrote: > >>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 09:58:31P

Re: Thinkpad X61s cannot boot 9.1-BETA1

2012-09-15 Thread Lars Engels
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 03:15:04PM +0300, Andriy Gapon wrote: > on 14/09/2012 11:17 Lars Engels said the following: > > Here's are some more dmesgs: > > > > http://bsd-geek.de/FreeBSD/T61_dmesg.boot.9.works # PCBSD 9.1-RC1 > > successuful boot on AC powe

Re: Thinkpad X61s cannot boot 9.1-BETA1

2012-10-18 Thread Lars Engels
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 01:48:02PM +0200, Lars Engels wrote: > On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 03:15:04PM +0300, Andriy Gapon wrote: > > on 14/09/2012 11:17 Lars Engels said the following: > > > Here's are some more dmesgs: > > > > > > http://bsd-geek.de/FreeBSD

Re: FreeBSD in Google Code-In 2012? You can help too!

2012-10-24 Thread Lars Engels
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 03:59:07PM -0400, Eitan Adler wrote: > On 23 October 2012 12:54, David Magda wrote: > > On Tue, October 23, 2012 10:39, Fbsd8 wrote: > >> > >> The subject is Google Code-In and all the posted tasks are directed at > >> creating documentation. Not one deals with coding any p

Re: 9.1 and intel graphics

2012-10-25 Thread Lars Engels
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 04:48:45PM +0200, Zoran Kolic wrote: > > AFAIC Matthew Seaman already gave you a wonderful suggestion to add > > yourself to the group "operator" and just use the command "shutdown" > > with your own rights only. Did you try this suggestion? > > Actually, it is wheel group.

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-23 Thread Lars Engels
Am 19.11.2012 21:07, schrieb Aldis Berjoza: 19.11.2012, 22:04, "Andrea Venturoli" : On 11/19/12 18:44, Eitan Adler wrote:  Hey all,  The FAQ for FreeBSD needs a significant amount of updating and  changing.  The first step in that process is to figure out what needs  to be changed.  If you

Re: Increasing the DMESG buffer....

2012-11-23 Thread Lars Engels
Am 23.11.2012 05:50, schrieb Ian Smith: On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 16:20:52 -0800, Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Gary Palmer wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 02:14:59PM -0800, Kevin Oberman wrote: > >> On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: > >> > On 22

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-23 Thread Lars Engels
Am 23.11.2012 14:54, schrieb Andrea Venturoli: On 11/23/12 10:25, Lars Engels wrote: I've seen that on almost every USB MP3 player, Android mobile phones and on other USB devices that export an internal memory card. BTW, my disk drive is SCSI attached, so it's not an USB-only is

Re: Increasing the DMESG buffer....

2012-11-25 Thread Lars Engels
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 05:20:52PM +1100, Ian Smith wrote: > On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 11:33:21 +0100, Lars Engels wrote: > > Am 23.11.2012 05:50, schrieb Ian Smith: > > > On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 16:20:52 -0800, Kevin Oberman wrote: > [..] > > > > >> Also, isn

Re: simple patch for portsnap to use wget

2012-11-27 Thread Lars Engels
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:22:09AM +0200, Alexander Yerenkow wrote: > Do you aware that if wget tries download from https, and there is > self-signed certificate, then it fails, and ask for --no-check-certificate > option? > How do your patch deal in that case? > > 2012/11/27 Luca Ferrari > > >

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-12-10 Thread Lars Engels
On Sun, Dec 09, 2012 at 07:47:01AM -0800, Jakub Lach wrote: > #sound-card-support > > First part is fine, assuming man pages will be up to date etc. Not sure > about > support for MIDI cards/MPU-401. Is this covered by uart? Don't know whatever > was "Microsoft® Sound System specification". > >

Re: Will we get a RELEASE-9.1 for Christmas?

2012-12-11 Thread Lars Engels
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 06:55:59PM +0100, Kurt Jaeger wrote: > Hi! > > > > The last few years it was always shortly after x-mas 8-} > > > > Christmas comes early this year: there hasn't been an official announce- > > ment yet > > So, as every year: be patient, wait for the official release annou

Re: ethtool-like utility for FreeBSD ?

2013-02-09 Thread Lars Engels
On Thu, Feb 07, 2013 at 03:10:32PM +0100, Kurt Jaeger wrote: > Hi! > > There is a posting public about Intel ethernet adapters and their > packets of death: > > http://blog.krisk.org/2013/02/packets-of-death.html > > Now, how can we test the EEPROM from FreeBSD, similar to the > ethtool of Linux

Re: How to get pkgng work through a proxy?

2013-05-14 Thread Lars Engels
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 12:36:44PM +0200, Rainer Duffner wrote: > Hi, > > I have this host (a cloned VM, FreeBSD 9.1 AMD64) behind an Astaro > Web-Proxy: > > > (blahost ) 70 # pkg > update > [12:00] Updating repository catalogue > repo.txz3

Re: USB ports on Lenovo T400 do not work after a suspend/resume

2013-06-26 Thread Lars Engels
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 11:09:20PM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote: > [snip] ok, I'll do a boot -v tonight when I get home and log things. > > Thanks! Please also try a recent CURRENT. I was having the same issues with dead USB ports on my X200, but IIRC it suddenly worked a few weeks ago. Unfotunately

Re: USB ports on Lenovo T400 do not work after a suspend/resume

2013-06-27 Thread Lars Engels
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 12:53:43PM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote: > On 26 June 2013 12:51, Lars Engels wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 11:09:20PM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote: > >> [snip] ok, I'll do a boot -v tonight when I get home and log things. > >> > >>

Re: USB ports on Lenovo T400 do not work after a suspend/resume

2013-07-07 Thread Lars Engels
On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 03:02:57PM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote: > On 30 June 2013 07:22, Ian Smith wrote: > > > After removing [numbers] (for WITNESS?), diff started making sense. > > The below is between the first and second suspend/resume cycles in > > dmesg-3.txt, encompassing the others. > > C

Re: Looking for driver help

2013-09-11 Thread Lars Engels
Am 11.09.2013 12:09, schrieb Ryan McIntosh: Yeah this is the same conclusion I came to in essence of anything existing. I'm going to hit up the freebsd-drivers list however and see where I end up after that. The cards might wind up in the garbage can or sold off cheap unfortunately if I can't g

Re: Please help with cleaning up an accident on 9.0 release

2015-05-20 Thread Lars Engels
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 07:23:56AM -0800, Royce Williams wrote: > On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Ulrich Drolshagen > wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I brought myself in real trouble with a really important 9.0 release > > system (9.0-RELEASE-p4). It's amd64. By accident I deleted the following > >

Re: 10-STABLE merge of lemul64

2015-07-03 Thread Lars Engels
On Fri, Jul 03, 2015 at 08:50:13AM +0300, Johannes Jost Meixner wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Hi Glen, > > Here's the PR you asked for: > > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=201299 > > I've discussed the merge with dchagin@, and he couldn't do it

Re: 10-STABLE merge of lemul64

2015-07-05 Thread Lars Engels
On Sun, Jul 05, 2015 at 06:03:29PM +0300, Johannes Jost Meixner wrote: > On 07/03/2015 12:24, Lars Engels wrote: > > > > Does the Flash Plugin in Firefox work for you? My Firefox on HEAD > > freezes when Flash content is displayed. > > > > It does, I jus

Re: FreeBSD 12.0-BETA2 Now Available

2018-10-29 Thread Lars Engels
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 07:59:32AM +, Mark Dixon wrote: > Same, FreeBSD update doesn't seem to be working: > > $ sudo freebsd-update upgrade -r 12.0-BETA2 IIRC freebsd-update only works for RCs, not ALPHA and BETA versions. ___ freebsd-stable@freeb

Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread Lars Engels
On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 09:29:37PM -0400, Charles Sprickman via freebsd-stable wrote: > > > What are the plans to get rid of the hellscape known as “mergemaster”? > Is there anything exciting and new there either in base or any of the > ixSystems projects? There's /usr/sbin/etcupdate in base. _

cbb related panic: resource_list_release: resource entry is not busy

2009-04-30 Thread Lars Engels
0xc0ac9270 in fork_trampoline () at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:264 Lars P.S.: Please keep me CC'ed. I am not subscribed to this list. -- Lars Engels E-Mail: lars.eng...@0x20.net pgpUev0kMjVFa.pgp Description: PGP Digital Signature

Re: cbb related panic: resource_list_release: resource entry is not busy

2009-04-30 Thread Lars Engels
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:08:18AM -0700, Sam Leffler wrote: > Lars Engels wrote: > > On 7.2-RC2 when I remove an Atheros wireless pccard causes the > > following panic: > > > > Unread portion of the kernel message buffer: > > panic: resource_list_release: resourc

Re: Release notes and handbook changes for identifying wireless adapters

2016-08-01 Thread Lars Engels
On Tue, Aug 02, 2016 at 07:02:05AM +0800, Ben Woods wrote: > Hi, > > FreeBSD wireless users who are upgrading to FreeBSD 11.0 will likely get a > surprise when they try and identify which wireless adapters are available > in their computer by using ifconfig. Neither the FreeBSD 11 release notes >

Re: Release notes and handbook changes for identifying wireless adapters

2016-08-01 Thread Lars Engels
On Tue, Aug 02, 2016 at 07:31:34AM +0200, Lars Engels wrote: > On Tue, Aug 02, 2016 at 07:02:05AM +0800, Ben Woods wrote: > > Hi, > > > > FreeBSD wireless users who are upgrading to FreeBSD 11.0 will likely get a > > surprise when they try and identify which wireless ad

Re: FreeBSD 11.0-BETA4 Now Available

2016-08-08 Thread Lars Engels
On Sat, Aug 06, 2016 at 09:05:26PM +, Glen Barber wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > o The new system hardening options have been fixed to avoid overwriting > other options selected during install time. Can those options also get added to "bsdconfig"? pgpOoPZAjr0vY.pgp Descript

Re: FreeBSD 11.0-BETA4 Now Available

2016-08-08 Thread Lars Engels
On Mon, Aug 08, 2016 at 02:44:05PM +, Glen Barber wrote: > On Mon, Aug 08, 2016 at 10:48:30AM +0200, Lars Engels wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 06, 2016 at 09:05:26PM +, Glen Barber wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > > > > o The new system har

Re: FreeBSD 11.0-BETA4 Now Available

2016-08-08 Thread Lars Engels
On Mon, Aug 08, 2016 at 10:15:07AM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: > > > On Aug 8, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Lars Engels wrote: > > > > On Mon, Aug 08, 2016 at 02:44:05PM +, Glen Barber wrote: > >> On Mon, Aug 08, 2016 at 10:48:30AM +0200, Lars Engels wrote: > >>>

Re: Benchmarks results for FreeBSD 11

2016-08-22 Thread Lars Engels
On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 11:48:46AM +0200, Andrea Brancatelli wrote: > Il 2016-08-21 08:45 Erich Dollansky ha scritto: > > > I am sure that some know of this site: > > > > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=2bsd-7linux-bench&num=4 > > > > I wonder about the results for FreeBSD. As

Re: Benchmarks results for FreeBSD 11

2016-08-23 Thread Lars Engels
On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 03:02:15PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 12:14:23PM +0200, Lars Engels wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 11:48:46AM +0200, Andrea Brancatelli wrote: > > > Il 2016-08-21 08:45 Erich Dollansky ha scritto: > > >

Re: ath0 associated, wlan0 not associated

2016-11-07 Thread Lars Engels
On Sat, Nov 05, 2016 at 01:00:56PM -0400, George Mitchell wrote: > On 11/05/16 01:05, Adrian Chadd wrote: > > nope, sorry. There's a lot of work in the -11 wifi stack and drivers. > > > > > > -a > > > > [...] > > Okay, I downloaded and installed 11.0-RELEASE on a spare slice, and > dmesg tells

Re: FreeBSD 11.0: Installation of icingaweb2

2017-02-07 Thread Lars Engels
On Mon, Feb 06, 2017 at 05:48:23PM +0100, Thorsten Baumeister wrote: > Hi folks, > last weekend I tried to install the port icingaweb2 on a patched > FreeBSD 11.0 server. 'make' worked fine, but 'make install' failed. > Has anyone seen / resolved this problem? > > ===> Checking if icingaweb2 al

Re: FreeBSD 11.0: Installation of icingaweb2

2017-02-08 Thread Lars Engels
On Wed, Feb 08, 2017 at 09:07:56AM -0800, Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 11:19 PM, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > >> On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 10:41 AM, Lars Engels > >> wrote: > >