ABI changes within stable branch

2017-09-19 Thread Aristedes Maniatis
Now that we are on a faster upgrade policy for minor branches, it is expected that we'll upgrade from 11.0 to 11.1 to 11.2 much faster than in the old days. I can cope with that, but it appears that functional changes are also being made within the stable branch as seen here: https://bugs.freeb

Re: ABI changes within stable branch

2017-09-19 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi! > Now that we are on a faster upgrade policy for minor branches, it is expected > that we'll upgrade from 11.0 to 11.1 to 11.2 much faster than in the old > days. I can cope with that, but it appears that functional changes are also > being made within the stable branch as seen here: > > h

Re: ABI changes within stable branch

2017-09-19 Thread Aristedes Maniatis
On 19/9/17 6:15PM, Kurt Jaeger wrote: > Hi! > >> Now that we are on a faster upgrade policy for minor branches, it is >> expected that we'll upgrade from 11.0 to 11.1 to 11.2 much faster than in >> the old days. I can cope with that, but it appears that functional changes >> are also being made

Re: ABI changes within stable branch

2017-09-19 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 19/09/2017 09:32, Aristedes Maniatis wrote: > On 19/9/17 6:15PM, Kurt Jaeger wrote: >> Hi! >> >>> Now that we are on a faster upgrade policy for minor branches, it is >>> expected that we'll upgrade from 11.0 to 11.1 to 11.2 much faster than in >>> the old days. I can cope with that, but it ap

Re: ABI changes within stable branch

2017-09-19 Thread Patrick M. Hausen
Hi all, > Am 19.09.2017 um 10:32 schrieb Aristedes Maniatis : > Then we have a problem since > https://pkg.freebsd.org/freebsd:11:x86:64/latest/All/ has been built on 11.1, > not on 11.0 (I just tested it with csync2 which I know fails). Packages there > may fail to run on 11.0, but there is no

Re: [Asterisk-bsd] Asterisk13 coredump on freebsd 11.1

2017-09-19 Thread Guido Falsi
On 09/19/2017 01:57, Tao Zhou wrote: > On 18/9/17 5:40 pm, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > >> There is a known issue with the latest version of Asterisk 13.xxx >> crashing. I don't know the root cause. Try downgrading the Asterisk >> version. You probably should compile all code with debug flags enab

[Bug 183817] [patch] [mac] [panic] kernel compiled with options INVARIANTS and MAC_PORTACL panices if loader loads mac_portacl.ko too

2017-09-19 Thread bugzilla-noreply
https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=183817 Eugene Grosbein changed: What|Removed |Added Assignee|freebsd-b...@freebsd.org|eu...@freebsd.org

Re: ABI changes within stable branch

2017-09-19 Thread Aristedes Maniatis
Matthew Seaman wrote: > > Ports are still being built according to the same policy -- on the > earliest still-supported release of each major branch. > > It's just that now, for 11.x and subsequent, 11.0 goes out of support a > month or so after 11.1-RELEASE comes out. You're meant to have upgra

Re: ABI changes within stable branch

2017-09-19 Thread Warner Losh
On Sep 19, 2017 6:05 PM, "Aristedes Maniatis" wrote: Matthew Seaman wrote: > > Ports are still being built according to the same policy -- on the > earliest still-supported release of each major branch. > > It's just that now, for 11.x and subsequent, 11.0 goes out of support a > month or so afte

Re: ABI changes within stable branch

2017-09-19 Thread Aristedes Maniatis
On 20/9/17 11:33AM, Warner Losh wrote: > FreeBSD has always had a policy of backwards compatibility. By that > definition we are stable. What we don't promise is full forwards > compatibility, which is what you are asking for.  Correct. Within the stable branch I'd always assumed forward compati