Re: Will we get a RELEASE-9.1 for Christmas?

2012-12-09 Thread ajtiM
On Saturday 08 December 2012 22:26:30 Chris Petrik wrote: > It will be released when it is ready. > Perfect answer... And one hour after release thounsands of new ports for building on Christmas time ): Mitja http://www.redbubble.com/people/lumiwa _

Re: Will we get a RELEASE-9.1 for Christmas?

2012-12-09 Thread Jakub Lach
This is good answer for end users, not so much when somebody is genuinely concerned if there were some unforeseen issues. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Will-we-get-a-RELEASE-9-1-for-Christmas-tp5767716p5767785.html Sent from the freebsd-stable mailing lis

Re: Will we get a RELEASE-9.1 for Christmas?

2012-12-09 Thread Jakub Lach
...so needless to say, I prefer one provided by developer (in this case Adrian's), even if it is laconic. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Will-we-get-a-RELEASE-9-1-for-Christmas-tp5767716p5767789.html Sent from the freebsd-stable mailing list archive at Na

Re: Will we get a RELEASE-9.1 for Christmas?

2012-12-09 Thread Eitan Adler
On 9 December 2012 08:48, Jakub Lach wrote: > This is good answer for end users, not so much when > somebody is genuinely concerned if there were some > unforeseen issues. Agreed. Companies need predictability. FWIW: The ports tree is open now (ports branch was tagged). The 9.1.0 src branch wa

Re: Will we get a RELEASE-9.1 for Christmas?

2012-12-09 Thread Dimitry Andric
On 2012-12-09 04:18, Brett Glass wrote: Just checking in, yet again, to ask about the status of FreeBSD 9.1. We've been delaying construction of new servers (which we wanted to build during the US Thanksgiving holiday) until the release, and really want to be able to work on them over Christmas.

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-12-09 Thread Jakub Lach
#sound-card-support First part is fine, assuming man pages will be up to date etc. Not sure about support for MIDI cards/MPU-401. Is this covered by uart? Don't know whatever was "Microsoft® Sound System specification". #es1370-silent-pcm That's one thing, but most often silent device is caus

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-12-09 Thread Jakub Lach
Just FYI, "Microsoft Sound System Specification" probably was meant to be Windows Sound System (?), severely obsolete standard... "WSS was based on Analog Devices AD1848 codec chip with Yamaha OPL3 (YMF262-M) FM synthesis sound chip." Probably already axed, it was supported by dev/sound/isa/mss

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-12-09 Thread Jakub Lach
Closest now would be ancient snd_ad1816, maybe it could be usable with it but it's pure speculation, good luck with finding hardware and testing that :) -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Help-review-the-FAQ-tp5762326p5767810.html Sent from the freebsd-stabl

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-12-09 Thread CeDeROM
AdLib ROX! :-) http://www.datasheetarchive.com/indexer.php?file=DSA00355987.pdf&dir=Datasheet-020&keywords=AD1848%2F1846&database=user-highscore# http://www.ebay.com/itm/Analog-Devices-AD1848KP-ISA-SoundPort-Opti-82C29A-/200846434225?pt=US_Sound_Cards_Internal_&hash=item2ec3615fb1 At computer de

Re: Will we get a RELEASE-9.1 for Christmas?

2012-12-09 Thread jb
Brett Glass lariat.net> writes: > > Just checking in, yet again, to ask about the status of FreeBSD > 9.1. We've been delaying construction of new servers (which we > wanted to build during the US Thanksgiving holiday) until the > release, and really want to be able to work on them over Chris

Re: Will we get a RELEASE-9.1 for Christmas?

2012-12-09 Thread Tim Daneliuk
On 12/09/2012 10:37 AM, jb wrote: I understand that releng people will build all packages once more right before 9.1 release, but perhaps caution is warranted - would 9.1-RC4 make sense ? I recently upgraded in place from 8.3-STABLE to 9.1-PRE. I needed to redo the system because of the sec co

Re: Will we get a RELEASE-9.1 for Christmas?

2012-12-09 Thread CeDeROM
On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 5:37 PM, jb wrote: > A few days ago I installed 9.0 and tested twice: > (..) > Only after this security compromise, time wise, things were so unstable. > I understand that releng people will build all packages once more right before > 9.1 release, but perhaps caution is warr

Re: Will we get a RELEASE-9.1 for Christmas?

2012-12-09 Thread jb
CeDeROM tlen.pl> writes: > ... > Was also true for me to crash the 9.0 system with dependencies > inconsistency after some time. But! Try 9.1-RC3 and use PORTINSTALL > ... The reason I abandoned 9.1-RC? was the security update statement that "It is believed that the compromise may have occurred

Re: Will we get a RELEASE-9.1 for Christmas?

2012-12-09 Thread Alfred Perlstein
My prediction is 9.1 will be released the last day of Hanukkah and I will tell you why: When I was a kid sometimes I would ask my patients to give me one big gift for Hanukkah instead of a small present each day. This would mean I would have to wait until the final day though. My assumption i

Re: Will we get a RELEASE-9.1 for Christmas?

2012-12-09 Thread Brett Glass
At 07:42 AM 12/9/2012, Dimitry Andric wrote: It has nothing to do with clang; it is not the default compiler for 9.1, and will never be for the 9.x series. Using it to compile your system (or ports) is entirely optional. I am actually eagerly awaiting a completely "un-GNUed" toolchain. But I

Re: Will we get a RELEASE-9.1 for Christmas?

2012-12-09 Thread Adrian Chadd
.. if people would like to see more resources thrown at getting things like timely releases done, please consider donating to the FreeBSD foundation and write to them about what you'd like to see. I think people are really quite used to getting "something for nothing". This isn't an attack at you

Re: Will we get a RELEASE-9.1 for Christmas?

2012-12-09 Thread Walter Hurry
On Sun, 09 Dec 2012 12:59:31 -0800, Adrian Chadd wrote: > .. if people would like to see more resources thrown at getting things > like timely releases done, please consider donating to the FreeBSD > foundation and write to them about what you'd like to see. > > I think people are really quite us

Re: Will we get a RELEASE-9.1 for Christmas?

2012-12-09 Thread Brett Glass
At 01:59 PM 12/9/2012, Adrian Chadd wrote: >.. if people would like to see more resources thrown at getting things >like timely releases done, please consider donating to the FreeBSD >foundation and write to them about what you'd like to see. > >I think people are really quite used to getting "so

Re: Will we get a RELEASE-9.1 for Christmas?

2012-12-09 Thread Adrian Chadd
Hi, It's definitely not targeted at you. The 9.1 stuff is an intersection of: * personal issues with some of the people involved (ie, "real life got to them and that took precedence"); * the security incident; * the freebsd cluster shuffling and reshuffling that was going on at the same time >Fr

Re: Will we get a RELEASE-9.1 for Christmas?

2012-12-09 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: > Hi, > > It's definitely not targeted at you. The 9.1 stuff is an intersection of: > > * personal issues with some of the people involved (ie, "real life got > to them and that took precedence"); > * the security incident; > * the freebsd clust

Re: Will we get a RELEASE-9.1 for Christmas?

2012-12-09 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Brett Glass wrote: > At 07:42 AM 12/9/2012, Dimitry Andric wrote: > > >It has nothing to do with clang; it is not the default compiler for 9.1, > >and will never be for the 9.x series. Using it to compile your system > >(or ports) is entirely optional. > > I am actually eagerly awaiting a comple