Kevin Oberman wrote:
> ... don't bet that csup and cvs will be around long ...
> It's really time to get away from CVS and I suspect
> it will be going away sooner than had been planned.
Once csup goes away, how will a base-only system update
the sources, e.g. to follow a security branch?
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On 26 Nov 2012 08:12, "Perry Hutchison" wrote:
>
> Kevin Oberman wrote:
>
> > ... don't bet that csup and cvs will be around long ...
> > It's really time to get away from CVS and I suspect
> > it will be going away sooner than had been planned.
>
> Once csup goes away, how will a base-only syste
On 26/11/2012 08:07, Perry Hutchison wrote:
> Once csup goes away, how will a base-only system update
> the sources, e.g. to follow a security branch?
freebsd-update(8)
Cheers,
Matthew
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Quoth Chris Rees :
> On 26 Nov 2012 08:12, "Perry Hutchison" wrote:
> > Kevin Oberman wrote:
> >
> > > ... don't bet that csup and cvs will be around long ...
> > > It's really time to get away from CVS and I suspect
> > > it will be going away sooner than had been planned.
> >
> > Once csup goes
Le Fri, 23 Nov 2012 23:41:32 +0100,
Willem Jan Withagen a écrit :
Hello,
> >> I'm waiting for the system to come back up, and will put the svn
> >> diff on my webserver, unless it is oke to post a 1200 lines of
> >> diff??
> >
> > I think that a webserver option would be better.
> > Thanks a
on 26/11/2012 12:10 Patrick Lamaiziere said the following:
> As far I can see it fails because there is no getnewvnode_reserve()
> / get_newvnode_drop_reserve() in 9.1.
The patch is for stable/9.
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Some strange errors continue - I'm not complaining, just informing:
/asp/src/release > # make release OR # make cdrom etc.. breaks at
kernel.txz:
===> zlib (install)
install -o root -g wheel -m 555 zlib.ko
//usr/obj/asp/src/release/dist/kernel/boot/kernel
kldxref //usr/obj/asp/src/release/dist/ke
On 2012-11-26 12:11, Beeblebrox wrote:
Some strange errors continue - I'm not complaining, just informing:
/asp/src/release > # make release OR # make cdrom etc.. breaks at
kernel.txz:
===> zlib (install)
install -o root -g wheel -m 555 zlib.ko
//usr/obj/asp/src/release/dist/kernel/boot/kernel
Dimitry Andric-4 wrote
> As said earlier, since you seem to be doing multithreaded builds, the
> actual error is obscured here. It will have occurred some time before
> the part of the log you posted.
Thanks for your help Dimitry.
I commented out THREADS = 6 in buildflags.conf and re-ran make re
Absolutely not, it's a heavily stripped custom kernel on this machine on
/boot/.
I was pointing to that, if my kernel is 9 MB, there's no way GENERIC could
be
1.5-2.5 MB.
Sorry for confusion.
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On 11/21/12 21:08, YongHyeon PYUN wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 10:49:21AM +0900, YongHyeon PYUN wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 02:59:34PM -0500, Richard Kuhns wrote:
>>> On 11/20/12 03:52, YongHyeon PYUN wrote:
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 10:30:04AM -0500, Richard Kuhns wrote:
> Hi all,
26.11.2012 16:49, Jakub Lach:
Absolutely not, it's a heavily stripped custom kernel on this machine on
/boot/.
Do you call this heavily stripped? :)
> ls -la /boot/kernel/kernel
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 5757970 Nov 26 10:57 /boot/kernel/kernel
However it's very hard to strip kernel further
On 11/26/2012 04:26 PM, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote:
26.11.2012 16:49, Jakub Lach:
Absolutely not, it's a heavily stripped custom kernel on this machine on
/boot/.
Do you call this heavily stripped? :)
> ls -la /boot/kernel/kernel
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 5757970 Nov 26 10:57 /boot/kernel/kern
Again, sorry for confusion :)
ls -la /boot/kernel/kernel
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 5842267 25 lis 18:32 /boot/kernel/kernel
Yes, it could be artificially smaller still, but delegating to modules
things
I would load witch each startup would be absurd.
First size was whole directory with module
As a reminder, this isn't a contest in kernel size :)
More useful would be if somebody would check GENERIC
on i386/amd64 for FAQ update.
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Jakub Lach wrote:
As a reminder, this isn't a contest in kernel size :)
More useful would be if somebody would check GENERIC
on i386/amd64 for FAQ update.
FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE amd64 GENERIC
> ls -lh /boot/kernel/kernel
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel12M May 8 2012 /boot/kernel/kernel
FreeBSD
Thanks!
Regarding FAQ, some info about journalling should be added to
"Chapter 9 Disks, File Systems, and Boot Loaders", especially now,
when SU+J is default.
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On 26 November 2012 11:25, Jakub Lach wrote:
> Thanks!
>
> Regarding FAQ, some info about journalling should be added to
> "Chapter 9 Disks, File Systems, and Boot Loaders", especially now,
> when SU+J is default.
which question does this apply to, or is this a request for new questions?
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Hello,
My co-worker ordered a Samsung 840 PRO series SSD for his desktop but we
found 9.0-rel would not probe it and 9.1-rc3 shows some errors. I got
past the problem with a workaround of disabling AHCI mode in the BIOS
which drops it to IDE mode and it detects fine, although runs a little
s
Hi.
On 26.11.2012 20:51, Adam McDougall wrote:
My co-worker ordered a Samsung 840 PRO series SSD for his desktop but we
found 9.0-rel would not probe it and 9.1-rc3 shows some errors. I got
past the problem with a workaround of disabling AHCI mode in the BIOS
which drops it to IDE mode and it d
On 11/26/12 14:27, Alexander Motin wrote:
Hi.
On 26.11.2012 20:51, Adam McDougall wrote:
My co-worker ordered a Samsung 840 PRO series SSD for his desktop but we
found 9.0-rel would not probe it and 9.1-rc3 shows some errors. I got
past the problem with a workaround of disabling AHCI mode in t
On 11/26/12 17:25, Jakub Lach wrote:
Thanks!
Regarding FAQ, some info about journalling should be added to
"Chapter 9 Disks, File Systems, and Boot Loaders", especially now,
when SU+J is default.
Add to FAQ 9.4 Which partitions can safely use Soft Updates? I have
heard that Soft Updates on /
On 11/26/12 16:57, Jakub Lach wrote:
As a reminder, this isn't a contest in kernel size :)
Didn't mean to, I just put it there to state that 1.5 - 2.5 MB for a
GENERIC kernel is not appropriate anymore.
More useful would be if somebody would check GENERIC
on i386/amd64 for FAQ update.
Than
Greetings,
Seems I get bitten by this every time I build a desktop on a new freebsd
install.
After all these years, I'd have the _definitive_ answer by now.
I just put (built) a copy of 8.3 on an x(i)386 (AMD32) box. Built/installed
kernel && world. All went pretty well. Just finished building Xo
On 11/26/12 21:27, Bas Smeelen wrote:
On 11/26/12 17:25, Jakub Lach wrote:
Thanks!
Regarding FAQ, some info about journalling should be added to
"Chapter 9 Disks, File Systems, and Boot Loaders", especially now,
when SU+J is default.
Please also add:
SU+J does not work (yet) with dump on a l
This may be request for new questions, or this can be supplemented
partially in hardware ones I think;
- new default partition layout and it's justification (single partition
nowadays, I believe?)
- default block size and it's justification (is it 4K? why?)
- NCQ support with ada/ahci
- ahci p
On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 12:25 -0800, Chris H wrote:
> Greetings,
> Seems I get bitten by this every time I build a desktop on a new freebsd
> install.
> After all these years, I'd have the _definitive_ answer by now.
> I just put (built) a copy of 8.3 on an x(i)386 (AMD32) box. Built/installed
> ke
I'm new to this list...
I'm running a bioinformatics server using 9.1-RC3 (64 cores, 512GB
ram). I have a ZFS raid-z2 array attached to an LSI controller with a
SSD cache drive.
Since upgrading to 9.1-RC2/3 (for AVX support), I have been
experiencing hard drive lockups with the message "write fa
On 26 November 2012, at 12:53, Bas Smeelen wrote:
> On 11/26/12 21:27, Bas Smeelen wrote:
>> On 11/26/12 17:25, Jakub Lach wrote:
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Regarding FAQ, some info about journalling should be added to
>>> "Chapter 9 Disks, File Systems, and Boot Loaders", especially now,
>>> when SU+
Bas Smeelen wrote:
On 11/26/12 16:57, Jakub Lach wrote:
[...]
Thanks Miroslav Lachman for the reply with the correct sizes for GENERIC
kernels.
Change FAQ 8.3 Why is my kernel so big?
Nowadays kernels are compiled in /debug mode by default/. Kernels built
in debug mode contain many symbols th
On 11/26/12 22:02, Doug Hardie wrote:
On 26 November 2012, at 12:53, Bas Smeelen wrote:
On 11/26/12 21:27, Bas Smeelen wrote:
On 11/26/12 17:25, Jakub Lach wrote:
Thanks!
Regarding FAQ, some info about journalling should be added to
"Chapter 9 Disks, File Systems, and Boot Loaders", especia
Greetings Ian, and thank you for your reply...
> On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 12:25 -0800, Chris H wrote:
>> Greetings,
>> Seems I get bitten by this every time I build a desktop on a new freebsd
>> install.
>> After all these years, I'd have the _definitive_ answer by now.
>> I just put (built) a copy
On 11/26/12 22:15, Miroslav Lachman wrote:
Bas Smeelen wrote:
On 11/26/12 16:57, Jakub Lach wrote:
[...]
Thanks Miroslav Lachman for the reply with the correct sizes for GENERIC
kernels.
Change FAQ 8.3 Why is my kernel so big?
Nowadays kernels are compiled in /debug mode by default/. Kernels
On 11/26/12 22:20, Bas Smeelen wrote:
On 11/26/12 22:02, Doug Hardie wrote:
On 26 November 2012, at 12:53, Bas Smeelen wrote:
On 11/26/12 21:27, Bas Smeelen wrote:
On 11/26/12 17:25, Jakub Lach wrote:
Thanks!
Regarding FAQ, some info about journalling should be added to
"Chapter 9 Disks, F
On 2012-11-26 (Monday) 22:15:27 Miroslav Lachman wrote:
> [...]
>
> So a kernel alone has 12MB, with debug symbols 62MB (12+50).
> And all *.symbols files can be deleted (if more space on /boot is needed)
> I don't know how it should be mentioned in FAQ.
>
> Miroslav Lachman
Specifying WITHOUT_K
On 11/26/12 22:27, Schaich Alonso wrote:
On 2012-11-26 (Monday) 22:15:27 Miroslav Lachman wrote:
[...]
So a kernel alone has 12MB, with debug symbols 62MB (12+50).
And all *.symbols files can be deleted (if more space on /boot is needed)
I don't know how it should be mentioned in FAQ.
Miroslav
On 11/20/12 20:25, Eitan Adler wrote:
On 19 November 2012 15:07, Aldis Berjoza wrote:
19.11.2012, 22:04, "Andrea Venturoli" :
On 11/19/12 18:44, Eitan Adler wrote:
Hey all,
The FAQ for FreeBSD needs a significant amount of updating and
changing. The first step in that process is to
Hi. With the recent delays from the security incident and the three SAs out of
the way, what now are we waiting for? I think we should just get rid of the
release schedule on FreeBSD.org if we aren't even going to be close to the set
dates.
RC3 has been really stable for me, but we have a no no
On 11/26/12 22:42, mat...@hush.ai wrote:
Hi. With the recent delays from the security incident and the three SAs out of
the way, what now are we waiting for? I think we should just get rid of the
release schedule on FreeBSD.org if we aren't even going to be close to the set
dates.
RC3 has been
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Bas Smeelen wrote:
> Hi
> Just modify newvers.sh to 9.1-RELEASE recompile and your on RELEASE :)
> Who has a no non-release policy, management?
It's not just management, but also software engineers, architects, and
business folks. When a company runs a service wh
On 11/26/12 23:36, Rick Miller wrote:
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Bas Smeelen wrote:
Hi
Just modify newvers.sh to 9.1-RELEASE recompile and your on RELEASE :)
Who has a no non-release policy, management?
It's not just management,
checked, they don't have a clue, that's what we're here f
On 11/26/12 23:48, Bas Smeelen wrote:
On 11/26/12 23:36, Rick Miller wrote:
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Bas Smeelen wrote:
Hi
Just modify newvers.sh to 9.1-RELEASE recompile and your on RELEASE :)
Who has a no non-release policy, management?
It's not just management,
Just to sum it up
On Nov 26, 2012, at 4:01 PM, "Reed A. Cartwright" wrote:
> I'm new to this list...
>
> I'm running a bioinformatics server using 9.1-RC3 (64 cores, 512GB
> ram). I have a ZFS raid-z2 array attached to an LSI controller with a
> SSD cache drive.
Can you tell us more about this server . Can y
Mark,
Shutdown happens cleanly. My pciconf.log is attached. sysctl.conf is
empty. Kernel is uncustomized amd64:
FreeBSD herschel.biodesign.asu.edu 9.1-RC3 FreeBSD 9.1-RC3 #0 r242324:
Tue Oct 30 00:58:57 UTC 2012
r...@farrell.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64
loader.conf:
zf
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 10:13:47AM -0500, Richard Kuhns wrote:
> On 11/21/12 21:08, YongHyeon PYUN wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 10:49:21AM +0900, YongHyeon PYUN wrote:
> >> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 02:59:34PM -0500, Richard Kuhns wrote:
> >>> On 11/20/12 03:52, YongHyeon PYUN wrote:
> On
On 11/26/12 23:09, Bas Smeelen wrote:
Probable addition
8.8 I get a lot of 'spurious interrupts detected' messages on a modified
i386 build kernel and my computer does not work right. What did I do wrong?
You have a single processor computer, build your own customized kernel
and disabled
option
Hi all,
I was in trouble for a while because I was using FreeBSD behind an
http proxy (a palo alto for what it means) and the portsnap command
was unable to handle updates reporting always "file does not exist".
After digging I found that the problem was in the phttpget command
used internally from
On 11/27/2012 08:44 AM, Andrea Venturoli wrote:
On 11/26/12 23:09, Bas Smeelen wrote:
Probable addition
8.8 I get a lot of 'spurious interrupts detected' messages on a modified
i386 build kernel and my computer does not work right. What did I do wrong?
You have a single processor computer, bui
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