Re: Thinkpad X61s cannot boot 9.1-BETA1

2012-09-13 Thread Lars Engels
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:08:25PM +0300, Alexander Motin wrote: > On 12.09.2012 22:58, Lars Engels wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 09:58:31PM +0300, Alexander Motin wrote: > >> On 12.09.2012 20:46, Lars Engels wrote: > >>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 08:30:36PM +0300, Andriy Gapon wrote: > on

Re: GEOM_RAID in GENERIC is harmful

2012-09-13 Thread Alexander Motin
On 13.09.2012 08:31, Eugene Grosbein wrote: 9-STABLE has got options GEOM_RAID in GENERIC. In real world, this change is pretty harmful and there are lots of cases when 9.0-RELEASE systems upgraded to 9-STABLE fail to mount root UFS filesystem or attach ZFS. It seems, there are lots of HDDs supp

Re: GEOM_RAID in GENERIC is harmful

2012-09-13 Thread Eugene Grosbein
13.09.2012 16:51, Alexander Motin wrote: >> That's makes users very angry when production server fails to boot >> with GENERIC kernel after correctly performed upgrade. >> >> GEOM_RAID compiled in GENERIC should be deactivated and require activation >> with some loader knob. Also, we need distinct

Re: GEOM_RAID in GENERIC is harmful

2012-09-13 Thread Eugene M. Zheganin
Hi. On 13.09.2012 15:51, Alexander Motin wrote: Problem of on-disk metadata garbage is not limited to GEOM_RAID. For example, I had case where remainders of old UFS file system were found by GEOM_LABEL and ZFS incorrectly attached to it instead of proper GPT partition, making other partition

Re: GEOM_RAID in GENERIC is harmful

2012-09-13 Thread Alexander Motin
On 13.09.2012 13:01, Eugene Grosbein wrote: 13.09.2012 16:51, Alexander Motin wrote: That's makes users very angry when production server fails to boot with GENERIC kernel after correctly performed upgrade. GEOM_RAID compiled in GENERIC should be deactivated and require activation with some lo

Re: GEOM_RAID in GENERIC is harmful

2012-09-13 Thread John Baldwin
On Thursday, September 13, 2012 6:13:51 am Eugene M. Zheganin wrote: > From my point of view GEOM_RAID in GENERIC kernel is a bomb, and we > will lose lots of FreeBSD beginners due to this. I had the completely opposite experience. I bought a new desktop and wanted to use the onboard SATA RAID

Re: Thinkpad X61s cannot boot 9.1-BETA1

2012-09-13 Thread Alexander Motin
On 13.09.2012 10:44, Lars Engels wrote: On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:08:25PM +0300, Alexander Motin wrote: On 12.09.2012 22:58, Lars Engels wrote: On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 09:58:31PM +0300, Alexander Motin wrote: On 12.09.2012 20:46, Lars Engels wrote: On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 08:30:36PM +0300, A

Re: Userland dtrace broken?

2012-09-13 Thread Chris Nehren
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 14:01:15 +0100 , Matt Burke wrote: > Following http://wiki.freebsd.org/DTrace/userland on 9.1-RC1, the example > fails to work as demonstrated: > > # dtrace -s pid.d -c test > dtrace: script 'pid.d' matched 2 probes > CPU IDFUNCTION:NAME > 1 59284

Re: Issue with igb and lagg (was Re: Problem with link aggregation + sshd)

2012-09-13 Thread Giulio Ferro
On 09/12/2012 10:51 PM, Freddie Cash wrote: On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Jack Vogel wrote: On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Freddie Cash wrote: Thanks for checking. I've used lagg(4) with igb, just not on 9.x. You're right, it seems to be pointing to the igb(4) driver in 9.x compared t