umass: AutoSense failed

2010-12-09 Thread Harald Weis
Hello All, What could be the reason for the following failure? ugen2.2: at usbus2 umass0: on usbus2 umass0: RBC over CBI; quirks = 0x umass0:1:0:-1: Attached to scbus1 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): AutoSense failed This occurs on 4 different boxes, all on 8.1-RELEASE. Never happened on previ

Re: umass: AutoSense failed

2010-12-09 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Thu, Dec 09, 2010 at 10:35:56PM +0100, Harald Weis wrote: > What could be the reason for the following failure? > > ugen2.2: at usbus2 > umass0: on usbus2 > umass0: RBC over CBI; quirks = 0x > umass0:1:0:-1: Attached to scbus1 > (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): AutoSense failed > > This occur

/sbin/reboot

2010-12-09 Thread Adam Vande More
Is there a reason /sbin/reboot isn't assigned to the operator group or is this an oversight? -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebs

Re: /sbin/reboot

2010-12-09 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , Adam Vande More writes: > Is there a reason /sbin/reboot isn't assigned to the operator group or is > this an oversight? Why would you want it to be? One really shouldn't be running /sbin/reboot directly as part of normal operations. shutdown does a graceful reboot if and when op

Re: /sbin/reboot

2010-12-09 Thread Adam Vande More
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: > Why would you want it to be? One really shouldn't be running /sbin/reboot > directly as part of normal operations. shutdown does a graceful reboot if > and when operators need to perform reboot. > AFAIK, the only functional difference be

Re: /sbin/reboot

2010-12-09 Thread Kevin Oberman
> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 23:35:51 -0600 > From: Adam Vande More > Sender: owner-freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org > > On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: > > > Why would you want it to be? One really shouldn't be running /sbin/reboot > > directly as part of normal operations. shutdo

Re: /sbin/reboot

2010-12-09 Thread Rob Farmer
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 21:35, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: > >> Why would you want it to be?   One really shouldn't be running /sbin/reboot >> directly as part of normal operations.  shutdown does a graceful reboot if >> and when operators need to

Re: /sbin/reboot

2010-12-09 Thread Adam Vande More
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Kevin Oberman wrote: > Unlike reboot, shutdown attempts to cleanly stop all processes. Things > like databases can be badly damaged by a reboot. Other processes save > state when stopped and that is lost with a reboot. > For the correct order, "shutdown -r" call

Re: /sbin/reboot

2010-12-09 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , Adam Vande More writes: > On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > Unlike reboot, shutdown attempts to cleanly stop all processes. Things > > like databases can be badly damaged by a reboot. Other processes save > > state when stopped and that is lost with a reb

Re: /sbin/reboot

2010-12-09 Thread Rob Farmer
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 22:46, Adam Vande More wrote: > shutdown also give operator more possibilities than a clean shutdown some > which could be very bad. > I haven't thought about the situation in any detail, but nothing jumps out at me from the manpage. You could do a denial of service thing b

Re: /sbin/reboot

2010-12-09 Thread Adam Vande More
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 1:04 AM, Mark Andrews wrote: > When you have administered multi-user systems you learn to do things > gracefully unless you actually need to do things abbruptly. > Yes I of course I use shutdown -r on a multi-user system in the rare times I deal with one. However that's

Re: /sbin/reboot

2010-12-09 Thread Garrett Wollman
In article , amvandem...@gmail.com writes: >For the correct order, "shutdown -r" calls reboot which calls init which >calls rc.shutdown. No. shutdown(8) sends a SIGINT to init(8), which runs rc.shutdown and then calls reboot(2) as its last act. reboot(8) freezes init(8), then sends a SIGTERM t