Re: FreeBSD 8.1-RC2 Available...

2010-07-07 Thread Ken Smith
On Fri, 2010-07-02 at 10:38 -0400, Ken Smith wrote: > At this time DVD images are not available. There was a fairly serious > security issue with the png graphics package. We will generate DVD > images when the rebuilt packages become available, that will be > announced then the images are ready.

8.x grudges

2010-07-07 Thread Mikhail T.
I'm upgrading several systems these days to the 8.1 (pre-release) and have hit the following troubles... I could file a formal PR for each, I suppose, but, maybe, this way will get the right people's attention sooner. In no particular order: 1. A picture, that one of the systems was dis

Re: 8.x grudges

2010-07-07 Thread Randi Harper
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Mikhail T. wrote: >  8. >     I tried to do an install on one of the systems via netbooting >     (pxeload) the disk1-image. It booted, but the sysinstall had to be >     started manually and, once started, did not act the same as when >     booted off of CD-ROM. S

Re: 8.x grudges

2010-07-07 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 14:22:22 -0400 "Mikhail T." wrote: >9. > The k8temp utility (installed by sysutils/k8temp > ), which worked fine on > both of my AMD-machines, no longer works on the Athlon one (still > works on the Opteron

Re: 8.x grudges

2010-07-07 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 02:22:22PM -0400, Mikhail T. wrote: > I'm upgrading several systems these days to the 8.1 (pre-release) > and have hit the following troubles... I could file a formal PR for > each, I suppose, but, maybe, this way will get the right people's > attention sooner. > > 2. >

Re: 8.x grudges

2010-07-07 Thread Kevin Oberman
> Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 14:22:22 -0400 > From: "Mikhail T." > Sender: owner-freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org > > I'm upgrading several systems these days to the 8.1 (pre-release) and > have hit the following troubles... I could file a formal PR for each, I > suppose, but, maybe, this way will get th

Re: net-booting the install disks (Re: 8.x grudges)

2010-07-07 Thread Randi Harper
2010/7/7 Mikhail T. : > 07.07.2010 14:30, Randi Harper написав(ла): > >  8. >>     I tried to do an install on one of the systems via netbooting >>     (pxeload) the disk1-image. It booted, but the sysinstall had to be >>     started manually and, once started, did not act the same as when >>     b

Re: 8.x grudges

2010-07-07 Thread Mikhail T.
07.07.2010 14:59, Jeremy Chadwick ???(??): FREEBSD_COMPAT7 kernel option is, apparently, a requirement (and thus not an "option") -- the kernel-config files, that worked with 7.x, break without this option in them (in addition to all the nuisance, that's documented in

Re: 8.x grudges

2010-07-07 Thread Randi Harper
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Mikhail T. wrote: > 07.07.2010 14:59, Jeremy Chadwick ???(??): >>> >>>      FREEBSD_COMPAT7 kernel option is, apparently, a requirement (and >>>      thus not an "option") -- the kernel-config files, that worked with >>>      7.x, break without this option in th

Re: 8.x grudges

2010-07-07 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
On Jul 7, 2010, at 1:34 PM, Randi Harper wrote: >> Well, pardon the political pun, but I don't believe in change for the sake >> of change. These particular changes are gratuitous. If sio is no longer >> available -- and replaced by uart, why change the /dev-entries?.. > > These changes aren't gr

Re: 8.x grudges

2010-07-07 Thread Mikhail T.
07.07.2010 16:34, Randi Harper ???(??): Attached is the kernel config-file (i386), that worked fine under 7.x. The kernel-compile will break (some *freebsd7* structs undefined), without the COMPAT_FREEBSD7 option. Try it for yourself... Don't use a kernel config from 7. We've already

Re: 8.x grudges

2010-07-07 Thread Freddie Cash
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Mikhail T. wrote: > 07.07.2010 14:59, Jeremy Chadwick ???(??): >>> >>>      FREEBSD_COMPAT7 kernel option is, apparently, a requirement (and >>>      thus not an "option") -- the kernel-config files, that worked with >>>      7.x, break without this option in th

Re: 8.x grudges

2010-07-07 Thread Freddie Cash
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Mikhail T. wrote: > I know nothing about the driver. But a utility I regularly used stopped > working after upgrade, so I added that to my list of upgrade-related > grudges. Was this before or after re-compiling all your installed ports, which is necessary step bet

Re: 8.x grudges

2010-07-07 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Mikhail T. wrote: > 07.07.2010 14:59, Jeremy Chadwick ???(??): >>> >>>      FREEBSD_COMPAT7 kernel option is, apparently, a requirement (and >>>      thus not an "option") -- the kernel-config files, that worked with >>>      7.x, break without this option in th

Re: 8.x grudges

2010-07-07 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Mikhail T. wrote: > 07.07.2010 16:34, Randi Harper ???(??): >> >>> Attached is the kernel config-file (i386), that worked fine under 7.x. >>> The >>> kernel-compile will break (some *freebsd7* structs undefined), without >>> the >>> COMPAT_FREEBSD7 option. Try i

Re: 8.x grudges

2010-07-07 Thread Sean Bruno
> > > 5. > > One of the upgraded systems would repeatedly hang at boot, until I > > disabled the on-board firewire-device through the BIOS... It was > > not a problem under 7.x, although I don't know, whether the device > > actually worked. > > This is a commonly-reported pr

Re: 8.x grudges

2010-07-07 Thread Sean Bruno
> > > 5. > > One of the upgraded systems would repeatedly hang at boot, until I > > disabled the on-board firewire-device through the BIOS... It was > > not a problem under 7.x, although I don't know, whether the device > > actually worked. > > This is a commonly-reported p

Re: 8.x grudges

2010-07-07 Thread Randi Harper
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Mikhail T. wrote: > Your "telling" me this is just as valid as warning me against using > computer-cases of a particular color. It is a silly requirement. My > expecting things, that worked for 7, to work in 8 is reasonable. There may > be (documented!) exceptions,

Re: 8.x grudges

2010-07-07 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 12:34:55 -0700 Kevin Oberman wrote: > k8temp is for older AMD system running K8 cores. It has been mostly > replaced with amdtemp which works on newer cores. I'm not sure if > amdtemp will work on K8 cores, though. It does (amdtemp works on K8s): r...@kg-quiet# uname -a FreeB

Re: 8.x grudges

2010-07-07 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 00:20:56 +0200 Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 12:34:55 -0700 > Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > k8temp is for older AMD system running K8 cores. It has been mostly > > replaced with amdtemp which works on newer cores. I'm not sure if > > amdtemp will work on K8 cor

Re: 8.x grudges

2010-07-07 Thread Steven Hartland
For what its worth, we have had good success migrating our kernel configs from 6 -> 7 -> 8 with very few changes, and no real problems. The secret is to create a kernel that is based of GENERIC using include in a "clean" the include that config in top level one which adds the specific additional

Re: 8.x grudges

2010-07-07 Thread Ken Smith
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/7/10 4:17 PM, Mikhail T. wrote: > 07.07.2010 14:59, Jeremy Chadwick написав(ла): >>> FREEBSD_COMPAT7 kernel option is, apparently, a requirement (and >>> thus not an "option") -- the kernel-config files, that worked with >>> 7.x, br