Re: Can't boot after make installworld

2010-03-24 Thread Mark Linimon
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 08:41:35PM +, Krzysztof Dajka wrote: > But still I am confused with FreeBSD naming and it's relation with > tags which are used in standard-supfile. Please see the following for an overview: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/introduction.html#CURRENT

Re: Can't boot after make installworld

2010-03-24 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 08:41:35PM +, Krzysztof Dajka wrote: > At first I didn't knew that I am upgrading to bleeding edge/developer > branch of FreeBSD. You're not. There seems to be some misconceptions with regards to what the tags represent, because people's opinions get in the way (mine i

Firefox 3.6.X and Thunderbird 3.0.X crashing with Radeon graphics on FBSD 8.0-STABLE SMP/sm64 box

2010-03-24 Thread O. Hartmann
Since the introduction of Thunderbird 3.0 and Firefox 3.6 I see spontanous crashes/coredumps of both thunderbird and firefox. Interingly Firefox 3.5.X works well on he same platform. The platform is a FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE/amd64 (r205536: Tue Mar 23 22:19:04 CET 2010), SMP box with 8GB of RAM, Qu

Re: Firefox 3.6.X and Thunderbird 3.0.X crashing with Radeon graphics on FBSD 8.0-STABLE SMP/sm64 box

2010-03-24 Thread Gary Jennejohn
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:32:40 + "O. Hartmann" wrote: > Since the introduction of Thunderbird 3.0 and Firefox 3.6 I see > spontanous crashes/coredumps of both thunderbird and firefox. Interingly > Firefox 3.5.X works well on he same platform. > > The platform is a FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE/amd64 (r

Multi node storage, ZFS

2010-03-24 Thread Michal
I wrote a really long e-mail but realised I could ask this question far far easier, if it doesn't make sense, the original e-mail is bellow Can I use ZFS to create a multinode storage area. Multiple HDD's in Multiple servers to create one target of, for example, //officestorage Allowing me to expa

Re: Multi node storage, ZFS

2010-03-24 Thread Vincent Hoffman
On 24/03/2010 15:47, Michal wrote: > I wrote a really long e-mail but realised I could ask this question far > far easier, if it doesn't make sense, the original e-mail is bellow > > Can I use ZFS to create a multinode storage area. Multiple HDD's in > Multiple servers to create one target of, for

Re: Multi node storage, ZFS

2010-03-24 Thread Boris Kochergin
Vincent Hoffman wrote: On 24/03/2010 15:47, Michal wrote: I wrote a really long e-mail but realised I could ask this question far far easier, if it doesn't make sense, the original e-mail is bellow Can I use ZFS to create a multinode storage area. Multiple HDD's in Multiple servers to create

Re: Multi node storage, ZFS

2010-03-24 Thread Freddie Cash
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Michal wrote: > I wrote a really long e-mail but realised I could ask this question far > far easier, if it doesn't make sense, the original e-mail is bellow > > Can I use ZFS to create a multinode storage area. Multiple HDD's in > Multiple servers to create one t

Re: Multi node storage, ZFS

2010-03-24 Thread Michael Loftis
--On Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:20 AM -0700 Freddie Cash wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Michal wrote: I wrote a really long e-mail but realised I could ask this question far far easier, if it doesn't make sense, the original e-mail is bellow Can I use ZFS to create a multinode

Re: Multi node storage, ZFS

2010-03-24 Thread Michal
On 24/03/2010 16:20, Freddie Cash wrote: Horribly, horribly, horribly complex. But, then, that's the Linux world. > :) Yes I know, it's not very clean, but was trying to gather ideas and I found that > > Server 1: bunch of disks exported via iSCSI > Server 2: bunch of disks exported via iSCS

Re: Multi node storage, ZFS

2010-03-24 Thread Freddie Cash
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Michael Loftis wrote: > --On Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:20 AM -0700 Freddie Cash < > fjwc...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Michal wrote: > >> >> I wrote a really long e-mail but realised I could ask this question far >>> far easier, if i

Re: Multi node storage, ZFS

2010-03-24 Thread Michael Loftis
--On Wednesday, March 24, 2010 5:12 PM + Michal wrote: If you were to do something like this, I'd make sure to have a fast local ZIL (log) device on the head node. That would reduce latency for writes, you might also do the same for reads. Then your bulk storage comes from the iSCSI

Re: Multi node storage, ZFS

2010-03-24 Thread Freddie Cash
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Michal wrote: > This is pretty much what I have been looking for, I don't mind using a > SAN Controller server in which to deal with all of this in fact I > expected that, but I wanted to present the disks from a server full of > HDD's (which in effect is just a

Re: Multi node storage, ZFS

2010-03-24 Thread Michal
On 24/03/2010 17:14, Freddie Cash wrote: > > Yes, that would be helpful (mirrored slogs, until we get slog removal > support). > > As would an L2ARC (cache) device in the head node. > > As well as lots and lots and lots of RAM. > > And as fast of ethernet NICs as you can get between the head n

Re: Powerd and est / eist functionality

2010-03-24 Thread John Long
At 07:55 PM 3/22/2010, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote: > >On Mon, March 22, 2010 19:57, John Long wrote: >>dmesg shows >>cpu0: on acpi0 >>est0: on cpu0 >>est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized. >>est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 6160b2506000b25 >>device_attach:

Re: Powerd and est / eist functionality

2010-03-24 Thread John Long
At 11:27 PM 3/22/2010, Alexander Motin wrote: >John Long wrote: >>Hello, I am putting together a couple update servers. Went with c2d >>E7500 on gigabyte G41M-ES2L boards. fbsd 8.0 release generic (so far) >>amd64, 1g mem, 1tb wd cavier blk, fresh system. >>My Kill-a-watt shows 41

Re: Powerd and est / eist functionality

2010-03-24 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 01:37:06PM -0700, John Long wrote: > I am trying to ascertain the viability of this motherboard w/ > regards to getting the power function working proper and am > constrained by the lack of monitoring tools vs what cupid.com has > for win with hwmonitor and cpuz (they have a

Re: Can't boot after make installworld

2010-03-24 Thread Krzysztof Dajka
Thanks a lot for clarifying. I think that I'm going to stick with STABLE release, as it reflects my expectations and time I can dedicate to tinker with my system. For some while I thought that I would return to Debian, because I became used to it's pros and cons. Thanks to experience I gained in

Re: Multi node storage, ZFS

2010-03-24 Thread Ivan Voras
Freddie Cash wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Michal wrote: I wrote a really long e-mail but realised I could ask this question far far easier, if it doesn't make sense, the original e-mail is bellow Can I use ZFS to create a multinode storage area. Multiple HDD's in Multiple servers t

Re: Multi node storage, ZFS

2010-03-24 Thread Miroslav Lachman
Michal wrote: On 24/03/2010 17:14, Freddie Cash wrote: Yes, that would be helpful (mirrored slogs, until we get slog removal support). As would an L2ARC (cache) device in the head node. As well as lots and lots and lots of RAM. And as fast of ethernet NICs as you can get between the head no

Re: Multi node storage, ZFS

2010-03-24 Thread Michal
On 24/03/2010 22:19, Ivan Voras wrote: > > For what it's worth - I think this is a good idea! iSCSI and ZFS make it > extraordinarily flexible to do this. You can have a RAIS - redundant > array of inexpensive servers :) > > For example: each server box hosts 8-12 drives - use a hardware > contr

Re: Firefox 3.6.X and Thunderbird 3.0.X crashing with Radeon graphics on FBSD 8.0-STABLE SMP/sm64 box

2010-03-24 Thread O. Hartmann
On 03/24/10 15:06, Gary Jennejohn wrote: On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:32:40 + "O. Hartmann" wrote: Since the introduction of Thunderbird 3.0 and Firefox 3.6 I see spontanous crashes/coredumps of both thunderbird and firefox. Interingly Firefox 3.5.X works well on he same platform. The platform

Re: Multi node storage, ZFS

2010-03-24 Thread Ben Morrow
Quoth Michal : > > I do aswell :D The thing is, I see it two ways; I worked for a a huge > online betting company, and we had the money for HP MSA's and big > expensive SAN's, then we have a lot of SMB's with no where near the > budget for that but the same problem with lots of data and the need f

Re: Powerd and est / eist functionality

2010-03-24 Thread John Long
At 02:36 PM 3/24/2010, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: >On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 01:37:06PM -0700, John Long wrote: >> I am trying to ascertain the viability of this motherboard w/ >> regards to getting the power function working proper and am >> constrained by the lack of monitoring tools vs what cupid.com

Re: Powerd and est / eist functionality

2010-03-24 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 06:04:51PM -0700 I heard the voice of John Long, and lo! it spake thus: > >> The i3/i5/i7 chips don't appear to offer ECC framework on their >> memory controllers (which are now on-die as I'm sure you know), >> which is why I plan to stay away from them for servers. > > I ag

8.x Amd64, ATA SATA mode reporting

2010-03-24 Thread John Long
Moved from another thread >> I csupd to stable amd64 8.0 and rebuilt then noticed from dmesg that I went from SATA150 (it should be SATA300) to >> udma100 SATA. > >This is a bug/quirk of some changes in ata(4). Your drive should be >operating at full SATA speed (probably SATA300). You can brin

Re: Multi node storage, ZFS

2010-03-24 Thread David Magda
On Mar 24, 2010, at 19:45, Michal wrote: It's all well and good having 1 ZFS server, but it's fragile in the the sense of no redundancy, then we have 1 ZFS server and a 2nd with DRBD, but that's a waste of money...think 12 TB, and you need to pay for another 12TB box for redundancy, and yo