Re: ukbd attachment and root mount

2008-11-12 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Sergey Babkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jeremy Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > What really needs to happen here should be obvious: we need some > > form of inexpensive keyboard-only USB support in boot2/loader. > If I remember right, UnixWare used(s) the BIOS calls in the loader. So d

Re: ukbd attachment and root mount

2008-11-12 Thread Martin
Am Wed, 12 Nov 2008 05:21:24 -0800 schrieb Jeremy Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Until we settle down, stop replying to Emails with one-liner > injections, and compile a list of test scenarios/cases that people > can perform, and get these people to provide both 1) full hardware > details, 2) ful

Re: ukbd attachment and root mount

2008-11-12 Thread Sergey Babkin
Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > What really needs to happen here should be obvious: we need some form of > inexpensive keyboard-only USB support in boot2/loader. > > I would *love* to know how Linux and Windows solve this problem. If I remember right, UnixWare used(s) the BIOS calls in the loader. -

Re: ukbd attachment and root mount

2008-11-12 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 12/11/2008 15:21 Jeremy Chadwick said the following: > I don't know what to say to ***ANY*** of the above, other than this: > > No one is doing anything about this problem because there does not > appear to be a 100% reproducible always-screws-up-when-I-do-this > scenario that happens to *every

Re: ukbd attachment and root mount

2008-11-12 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 02:49:15PM +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: > on 12/11/2008 14:33 Jeremy Chadwick said the following: > > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 02:20:41PM +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: > >> on 12/11/2008 14:14 Jeremy Chadwick said the following: > >>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 01:58:58PM +0200, Andr

Re: ukbd attachment and root mount

2008-11-12 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 12/11/2008 14:33 Jeremy Chadwick said the following: > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 02:20:41PM +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: >> on 12/11/2008 14:14 Jeremy Chadwick said the following: >>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 01:58:58PM +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: >> [snip] 2. if ukbd driver is not attached then

Re: ukbd attachment and root mount

2008-11-12 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 02:20:41PM +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: > on 12/11/2008 14:14 Jeremy Chadwick said the following: > > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 01:58:58PM +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: > [snip] > >> 2. if ukbd driver is not attached then I don't see any way USB keyboard > >> would work in non-lega

Re: ukbd attachment and root mount

2008-11-12 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 12/11/2008 14:14 Jeremy Chadwick said the following: > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 01:58:58PM +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: [snip] >> 2. if ukbd driver is not attached then I don't see any way USB keyboard >> would work in non-legacy way > > Regarding #2: at which stage? boot0/boot2/loader require an

Re: ukbd attachment and root mount

2008-11-12 Thread Nate Eldredge
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 05/11/2008 17:24 Andriy Gapon said the following: [...] I have a legacy-free system (no PS/2 ports, only USB) and I wanted to try a kernel without atkbd and psm (with ums, ukbd, kbdmux), but was bitten hard when I made a mistake and kernel could not

Re: ukbd attachment and root mount

2008-11-12 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 01:58:58PM +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: > on 12/11/2008 13:53 Nate Eldredge said the following: > > On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Andriy Gapon wrote: > > > >> on 05/11/2008 17:24 Andriy Gapon said the following: > > [...] > >>> I have a legacy-free system (no PS/2 ports, only USB) and

Re: ukbd attachment and root mount

2008-11-12 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 12/11/2008 13:53 Nate Eldredge said the following: > On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Andriy Gapon wrote: > >> on 05/11/2008 17:24 Andriy Gapon said the following: > [...] >>> I have a legacy-free system (no PS/2 ports, only USB) and I wanted to >>> try a kernel without atkbd and psm (with ums, ukbd, kbdmu

Re: ukbd attachment and root mount

2008-11-12 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 05/11/2008 17:24 Andriy Gapon said the following: > System is FreeBSD 7.1-BETA2 amd64. > > Looking through my dmesg I see that relative order of ukbd attachment > and root mounting is not deterministic. Sometime keyboard is attached > first, sometimes root filesystem is mounted first. Quite mor

Re: ukbd attachment and root mount

2008-11-05 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 05/11/2008 18:01 Jeremy Chadwick said the following: > On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 05:24:03PM +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: [snip] >> Another (with custom kernel, zfs root): >> Nov 4 17:54:03 odyssey kernel: Trying to mount root from zfs:tank/root >> Nov 4 17:54:03 odyssey kernel: ukbd0: > rev 1.10

Re: ukbd attachment and root mount

2008-11-05 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 05:24:03PM +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: > System is FreeBSD 7.1-BETA2 amd64. > > Looking through my dmesg I see that relative order of ukbd attachment > and root mounting is not deterministic. Sometime keyboard is attached > first, sometimes root filesystem is mounted first.

ukbd attachment and root mount

2008-11-05 Thread Andriy Gapon
System is FreeBSD 7.1-BETA2 amd64. Looking through my dmesg I see that relative order of ukbd attachment and root mounting is not deterministic. Sometime keyboard is attached first, sometimes root filesystem is mounted first. Quite more often root is mounted first, though. Example (with GENERIC k