Re: slow ZFS on FreeBSD 8.1

2011-01-04 Thread Freek van Hemert
Thank you mailinglist, That was a lot of info. First of all, I don't think this is a cpu issue since the cpu is mostly idle while copying. Second, I tried the hacks in loader.conf and the other ones mentioned in the beginning of the thread. Allthough perfomance is somewhat increased, it is still h

Re: slow ZFS on FreeBSD 8.1

2011-01-02 Thread Steven Hartland
- Original Message - From: "Jeremy Chadwick" Based on my experiences at home, I converted my desktop at work to pure ZFS. The only issues I've run into have been programs that extensively use mmap(2) - which is a known issue with ZFS. Is your ZFS root filesystem associated with a po

Re: slow ZFS on FreeBSD 8.1

2011-01-02 Thread Bruce Cran
On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 15:47:47 -0800 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > There's a link to www.dan.me.uk at the bottom of the above Wiki page > that outlines "the madness" that's required to configure the setup, > all of which has to be done by hand. I don't know many > administrators who are going to tolera

Re: slow ZFS on FreeBSD 8.1

2011-01-02 Thread Dan Langille
On 12/31/2010 6:47 PM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Sat, Jan 01, 2011 at 10:33:43AM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote: Based on my experiences at home, I converted my desktop at work to pure ZFS. The only issues I've run into have been programs that extensively use mmap(2) - which is a known issue with

Re: slow ZFS on FreeBSD 8.1

2010-12-31 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2010-Dec-31 15:47:47 -0800, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: >Is your ZFS root filesystem associated with a pool that's mirrored or >using raidzX? Currently, mirrored. I'm considering raidz1 at home. Note that my work system is a single pool, whereas I'll use a separate pool for root at home. > What

Re: slow ZFS on FreeBSD 8.1

2010-12-31 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2010-Dec-30 02:31:30 -0500, Adam Stylinski wrote: >I can tell you what the problem is right now, actually. ZFS performs >very poorly on low performance CPUs (i.e. your Atom N330). I would disagree. In this case, the op's most serious problem is a bug in sys/cddl/contrib/opensolaris/uts/commo

Re: slow ZFS on FreeBSD 8.1

2010-12-31 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Sat, Jan 01, 2011 at 10:33:43AM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2010-Dec-30 07:20:57 -0500, Dan Langille wrote: > >The reason I've not installed ZFS on root is because of the added > >complications. I run the OS on ufs (with gmirror) and my data is on > >ZFS. We must be hanging out with di

Re: slow ZFS on FreeBSD 8.1

2010-12-31 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2010-Dec-30 07:20:57 -0500, Dan Langille wrote: >The reason I've not installed ZFS on root is because of the added >complications. I run the OS on ufs (with gmirror) and my data is on >ZFS. We must be hanging out with different groups. Most of the people >I know don't have ZFS on root.

Re: slow ZFS on FreeBSD 8.1

2010-12-30 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 30/12/2010 12:20, Dan Langille wrote: > On 12/30/2010 4:00 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: >> On 30/12/2010 00:56, Dan Langille wrote: >> Yes, if you're booting from ZFS and you're using gpt to partition the >> disks, as described at http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot/ >> et seq. That's pro

Re: slow ZFS on FreeBSD 8.1

2010-12-30 Thread Dan Langille
On 12/30/2010 4:00 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 30/12/2010 00:56, Dan Langille wrote: them. You'll need to run both 'zpool update -a' and 'zfs update -a' -- As Jean-Yves pointed out: upgrade not update. Some word beginning with 'up' anyhow. # gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gpt

Re: slow ZFS on FreeBSD 8.1

2010-12-30 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 30/12/2010 00:56, Dan Langille wrote: >> them. You'll need to run both 'zpool update -a' and 'zfs update -a' -- As Jean-Yves pointed out: upgrade not update. Some word beginning with 'up' anyhow. >> # gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptzfsboot -i 1 ad0 > This part applies only if

Re: slow ZFS on FreeBSD 8.1

2010-12-30 Thread Adam Stylinski
I can tell you what the problem is right now, actually. ZFS performs very poorly on low performance CPUs (i.e. your Atom N330). Try the same system with a different CPU and you'll get a different result. It's not a lack of bandwidth on your bus, memory, or disks, and it's not exactly the chec

Re: slow ZFS on FreeBSD 8.1

2010-12-29 Thread Dan Langille
On 12/29/2010 12:47 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 29/12/2010 08:57, Freek van Hemert wrote: The hacks sounds good until 8.2 is released however, regarding this upgrade, is the on-disk format the same? Can I just add the pool to a new install (of 8.2-RC) and expect higher performance? Or do I need

Re: slow ZFS on FreeBSD 8.1

2010-12-29 Thread Jean-Yves Avenard
On Thursday, 30 December 2010, Matthew Seaman wrote: > No -- the on-disk format is different.  ZFS will run fine with the older > on-disk formats, but you won't get the full benefits without updating > them.   You'll need to run both 'zpool update -a' and 'zfs update -a' -- I believe it's "upgrad

Re: slow ZFS on FreeBSD 8.1

2010-12-29 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 29/12/2010 08:57, Freek van Hemert wrote: > The hacks sounds good until 8.2 is released however, regarding this upgrade, > is the on-disk format the same? Can I just add the pool to a new install (of > 8.2-RC) and expect higher performance? Or do I need to recreate the pool > with the newer vers

Re: slow ZFS on FreeBSD 8.1

2010-12-29 Thread Guido Falsi
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 11:55:57AM +0100, Stefan Huerter wrote: > Guckux Freek > > > The hacks sounds good until 8.2 is released however, regarding this > > upgrade, > > is the on-disk format the same? Can I just add the pool to a new install > > (of > > 8.2-RC) and expect higher performance? Or d

Re: slow ZFS on FreeBSD 8.1

2010-12-29 Thread Stefan Huerter
Guckux Freek > The hacks sounds good until 8.2 is released however, regarding this > upgrade, > is the on-disk format the same? Can I just add the pool to a new install > (of > 8.2-RC) and expect higher performance? Or do I need to recreate the pool > with the newer versions of the utilities? jus

Re: slow ZFS on FreeBSD 8.1

2010-12-29 Thread Freek van Hemert
Thanx for all the replies. The hacks sounds good until 8.2 is released however, regarding this upgrade, is the on-disk format the same? Can I just add the pool to a new install (of 8.2-RC) and expect higher performance? Or do I need to recreate the pool with the newer versions of the utilities? On

Re: slow ZFS on FreeBSD 8.1

2010-12-29 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 28/12/2010 23:56, Freek van Hemert wrote: > I have a question regarding zfs on freebsd. > (I'm making a home server) > This afternoon I did a "zpool create data mirror ad4 ad6" Now I'm copying > things from my ufs2 disk into the 2TB zpool, it is very slow. I'm on freebsd > 8.1 amd64 on an atom n

Re: slow ZFS on FreeBSD 8.1

2010-12-28 Thread Adam Vande More
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Freek van Hemert wrote: > Top tells me: 761 MB Active, 790 Inactive and there is hardly any cpu usage > (96-98% idle). vfs.numvnodes: around 12500 now (after several hours of > copying) and stil slowly rising. > > Hope you can help me. > I believe there were some

Re: slow ZFS on FreeBSD 8.1

2010-12-28 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 12:56:57AM +0100, Freek van Hemert wrote: > Hello everyone, > > This is my first mail on the mailinglist and I very much appreciate this > option of getting some help. > > I have a question regarding zfs on freebsd. > (I'm making a home server) > This afternoon I did a "zp

slow ZFS on FreeBSD 8.1

2010-12-28 Thread Freek van Hemert
Hello everyone, This is my first mail on the mailinglist and I very much appreciate this option of getting some help. I have a question regarding zfs on freebsd. (I'm making a home server) This afternoon I did a "zpool create data mirror ad4 ad6" Now I'm copying things from my ufs2 disk into the