Re: problems with Hitachi 1TB SATA drives

2007-07-26 Thread Thomas Hurst
* Jeremy Chadwick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > * I'm left questioning why a disk manufacturer would process drives > (by this I mean the manufacturing process) differently based on their > transport type. It would cost a *huge* amount of money to have > separate fabs for SCSI, SAS, and SATA/PATA.

Re: problems with Hitachi 1TB SATA drives

2007-07-25 Thread Oliver Fromme
Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > * Hard disks are growing in capacity, but are not growing in physical > size. We're pushing 1TB in a 3.5" form factor. And the same applies to > laptop (2.5") drives. The margin of error continues to increase as we > try to cram more and more data in such a small med

Re: problems with Hitachi 1TB SATA drives

2007-07-24 Thread Mike Tancsa
At 08:44 PM 7/23/2007, Bill Swingle wrote: After several tries I was able to get both disks newfs'd and mounted but they quickly fell down with DMA timeouts. On one occasion the machine actually panic'd too: Hi, What options do you have set in the BIOS for the sata controller ? Do y

Re: problems with Hitachi 1TB SATA drives

2007-07-24 Thread Scott Long
Josh Paetzel wrote: > On Tuesday 24 July 2007, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > >> * SCSI is outrageously expensive even in 2007. I have yet to see >> any shred of justification for why SCSI costs so much *even today*. >> It costs only a smidgen less than it did 15 years ago. >> >> * SCSI is on its way

Re: problems with Hitachi 1TB SATA drives

2007-07-24 Thread Scott Long
Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 11:26:04AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote.. >> On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 12:30:49PM -0500, Josh Paetzel wrote: >>> I don't have any experience with the Hitachi 1TB SATA drives, but I >>> know an outfit that was trying out the Seagate 1TB drives and had 8 >

Re: problems with Hitachi 1TB SATA drives

2007-07-24 Thread Patrick M. Hausen
Hi, all! > To add fuel to the fire, Seagate *again* sent me a refurbished drive > (and I used their advanced replacement program), which has sat in a box > unopened since received. I ended up buying two WD 500GB drives to > replace the single Seagate; one of the drives is used for nothing other >

Re: problems with Hitachi 1TB SATA drives

2007-07-24 Thread Josh Paetzel
On Tuesday 24 July 2007, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > * SCSI is outrageously expensive even in 2007. I have yet to see > any shred of justification for why SCSI costs so much *even today*. > It costs only a smidgen less than it did 15 years ago. > > * SCSI is on its way out. Seagate recently anno

Re: problems with Hitachi 1TB SATA drives

2007-07-24 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 11:26:04AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote.. > On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 12:30:49PM -0500, Josh Paetzel wrote: > > I don't have any experience with the Hitachi 1TB SATA drives, but I > > know an outfit that was trying out the Seagate 1TB drives and had 8 > > out of 12 fail thei

Re: problems with Hitachi 1TB SATA drives

2007-07-24 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 12:30:49PM -0500, Josh Paetzel wrote: > I don't have any experience with the Hitachi 1TB SATA drives, but I > know an outfit that was trying out the Seagate 1TB drives and had 8 > out of 12 fail their burn-in (a 3 day torture test) My luck with > consumer SATA drives has

Re: problems with Hitachi 1TB SATA drives

2007-07-24 Thread Josh Paetzel
On Tuesday 24 July 2007, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > On Tue, 24 Jul 2007, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 07:40:21PM -0700, Bill Swingle wrote: > > > Doh, I knew I forgot something in my original email. > > > Here's the full dmesg: http://dub.net/rum.dub.net.dmesg > > > > Actually

RE: problems with Hitachi 1TB SATA drives

2007-07-24 Thread Daniel Eriksson
Bill Swingle wrote: > I have a fileserver that currently has a 4-disc raid connected to an > IDE 3ware card. I had hoped to replace this dying system with a pair > of synchronized 1TB SATA drives. When trying to newfs them both > eventually failed with DMA READ or WRITE timeouts. Here's some infos

Re: problems with Hitachi 1TB SATA drives

2007-07-23 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 07:40:21PM -0700, Bill Swingle wrote: > > Doh, I knew I forgot something in my original email. > > Here's the full dmesg: http://dub.net/rum.dub.net.dmesg > > Actually you did include this in your original Email. I think Danie

Re: problems with Hitachi 1TB SATA drives

2007-07-23 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 07:40:21PM -0700, Bill Swingle wrote: > Doh, I knew I forgot something in my original email. > Here's the full dmesg: http://dub.net/rum.dub.net.dmesg Actually you did include this in your original Email. I think Daniel overlooked it. :-) After looking at your dmesg an

Re: problems with Hitachi 1TB SATA drives

2007-07-23 Thread Bill Swingle
Doh, I knew I forgot something in my original email. Here's the full dmesg: http://dub.net/rum.dub.net.dmesg Here's the controller info: atapci1: port 0xec00-0xec07,0xe800-0xe803,0xe400-0xe407,0xe000-0xe003,0xdc00-0xdc0f irq 18 at device 31.2 on pci0 ata2: on atapci1 ata3: on atapci1 -Bil

Re: problems with Hitachi 1TB SATA drives

2007-07-23 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007, Bill Swingle wrote: > I've read that bad SATA cables could cause this, the cables I'm using > are brand new but are probably pretty cheap. Unlike they're both faulty too.. You need to post your dmesg otherwise we have no idea what controller you're using.. -- Daniel O'Conn

problems with Hitachi 1TB SATA drives

2007-07-23 Thread Bill Swingle
Hello all, I've run across a problem that I hope someone can aid me with. I have a fileserver that currently has a 4-disc raid connected to an IDE 3ware card. I had hoped to replace this dying system with a pair of synchronized 1TB SATA drives. When trying to newfs them both eventually failed