RE: constant zfs data corruption

2008-10-21 Thread Daniel Eriksson
Certain combinations of nVidia chips will cause silent data corruption under FreeBSD. Google "freebsd mcp55 corruption" for more information. --- Daniel Eriksson (http://www.toomuchdata.se/) ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freeb

Re: constant zfs data corruption

2008-10-20 Thread Ian Smith
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008, Fabian Keil wrote: > Jeremy Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 03:07:30PM -0200, JoaoBR wrote: > > > On Monday 20 October 2008 11:22:08 you wrote: > > > > > Also, do you not think it's a little odd that the only data > > > > corruption oc

Re: constant zfs data corruption

2008-10-20 Thread Xin LI
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: [snip] > Ahh, I see. So to paraphrase, ZFS can detect checksum errors (data > corruption) using any pool type (single disk, mirror, raidz, whatever), > but can only *repair* the error when using a mirror or raidz. Also when cop

Re: constant zfs data corruption

2008-10-20 Thread Artem Belevich
> all right and understood but shouldn't something as fsck should correct the > error? Seems kind of problematic to me mounting zfs in single user mode, > deleting the file and restarting the OS ? According to Sun's documents, removing corrupted file seems to be 'official' way to get rid of the pr

Re: constant zfs data corruption

2008-10-20 Thread Fabian Keil
Jeremy Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 03:07:30PM -0200, JoaoBR wrote: > > On Monday 20 October 2008 11:22:08 you wrote: > > > Also, do you not think it's a little odd that the only data > > > corruption occurring for you are related to RRDtool? > > > > this yes I t

Re: constant zfs data corruption

2008-10-20 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Jeremy Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 03:18:01PM -0200, JoaoBR wrote: > > On Monday 20 October 2008 15:03:14 Chuck Swiger wrote: > > > On Oct 20, 2008, at 9:48 AM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > > > Hm... I thought we determined earlier i

Re: constant zfs data corruption

2008-10-20 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Oct 20, 2008, at 10:19 AM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: He's not getting working filesystem redundancy with the existing config and is vulnerable to losing data from a single drive failure, agreed. But the ZFS checksum mechanism should still be working to detect data corruption, even though ZFS ca

Re: constant zfs data corruption

2008-10-20 Thread Fabian Keil
JoaoBR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 20 October 2008 11:22:08 you wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 08:37:40AM -0200, JoaoBR wrote: > > > On Friday 17 October 2008 15:39:59 Chuck Swiger wrote: > > > > On Oct 17, 2008, at 11:30 AM, JoaoBR wrote: > > > > > constantly I find data corruption

Re: constant zfs data corruption

2008-10-20 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 03:18:01PM -0200, JoaoBR wrote: > On Monday 20 October 2008 15:03:14 Chuck Swiger wrote: > > On Oct 20, 2008, at 9:48 AM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > > Hm... I thought we determined earlier in this thread that the OP is > > > not > > > getting the benefits of ZFS checksums be

Re: constant zfs data corruption

2008-10-20 Thread Xin LI
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 JoaoBR wrote: > On Friday 17 October 2008 15:49:54 Xin LI wrote: [...] >>> some idea? >> For ZFS: I think you need to remove these file. ZFS scrub does not >> recover file if you don't have redundant, e.g. copies=2 or raid-z, etc. > > ok I see, I di

Re: constant zfs data corruption

2008-10-20 Thread JoaoBR
On Monday 20 October 2008 15:03:14 Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Oct 20, 2008, at 9:48 AM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > Hm... I thought we determined earlier in this thread that the OP is > > not > > getting the benefits of ZFS checksums because he's not using raidz > > (only > > a single disk with a sing

Re: constant zfs data corruption

2008-10-20 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:03:14AM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Oct 20, 2008, at 9:48 AM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: >> Hm... I thought we determined earlier in this thread that the OP is >> not >> getting the benefits of ZFS checksums because he's not using raidz >> (only >> a single disk with

Re: constant zfs data corruption

2008-10-20 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 03:07:30PM -0200, JoaoBR wrote: > On Monday 20 October 2008 11:22:08 you wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 08:37:40AM -0200, JoaoBR wrote: > > > On Friday 17 October 2008 15:39:59 Chuck Swiger wrote: > > > > On Oct 17, 2008, at 11:30 AM, JoaoBR wrote: > > > > > constantly I

Re: constant zfs data corruption

2008-10-20 Thread JoaoBR
On Monday 20 October 2008 14:44:50 Chuck Swiger wrote: > Hi, all-- > > On Oct 20, 2008, at 6:22 AM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > [ ...JoaoBR wrote... ] > > >> well, hardware seems to be ok and not older than 6 month, also > >> happens not > >> only on one machine ... smartctl do not report any hw failu

Re: constant zfs data corruption

2008-10-20 Thread JoaoBR
On Monday 20 October 2008 11:22:08 you wrote: > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 08:37:40AM -0200, JoaoBR wrote: > > On Friday 17 October 2008 15:39:59 Chuck Swiger wrote: > > > On Oct 17, 2008, at 11:30 AM, JoaoBR wrote: > > > > constantly I find data corruption on ZFS volums, ever from rrdtool, > > > > th

Re: constant zfs data corruption

2008-10-20 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Oct 20, 2008, at 9:48 AM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: Hm... I thought we determined earlier in this thread that the OP is not getting the benefits of ZFS checksums because he's not using raidz (only a single disk with a single pool)? He's not getting working filesystem redundancy with the exi

Re: constant zfs data corruption

2008-10-20 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 09:44:50AM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Hi, all-- > > On Oct 20, 2008, at 6:22 AM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > [ ...JoaoBR wrote... ] >>> well, hardware seems to be ok and not older than 6 month, also >>> happens not >>> only on one machine ... smartctl do not report any hw f

Re: constant zfs data corruption

2008-10-20 Thread Chuck Swiger
Hi, all-- On Oct 20, 2008, at 6:22 AM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: [ ...JoaoBR wrote... ] well, hardware seems to be ok and not older than 6 month, also happens not only on one machine ... smartctl do not report any hw failures on disk regarding jumpering the drives to 150 you suspect a driver p

Re: constant zfs data corruption

2008-10-20 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 08:37:40AM -0200, JoaoBR wrote: > On Friday 17 October 2008 15:39:59 Chuck Swiger wrote: > > On Oct 17, 2008, at 11:30 AM, JoaoBR wrote: > > > constantly I find data corruption on ZFS volums, ever from rrdtool, > > > this > > > corrupt data happens on SATA disks, never seem

Re: constant zfs data corruption

2008-10-20 Thread JoaoBR
On Friday 17 October 2008 15:39:59 Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Oct 17, 2008, at 11:30 AM, JoaoBR wrote: > > constantly I find data corruption on ZFS volums, ever from rrdtool, > > this > > corrupt data happens on SATA disks, never seem on SCSI > > Presumably your SATA drives are correctly being report

Re: constant zfs data corruption

2008-10-20 Thread JoaoBR
On Friday 17 October 2008 15:49:54 Xin LI wrote: > JoaoBR wrote: > > Hi > > > > constantly I find data corruption on ZFS volums, ever from rrdtool, this > > corrupt data happens on SATA disks, never seem on SCSI > > > > scrub is not able to repair, when comes to touch this files machines > > reboot

Re: constant zfs data corruption

2008-10-17 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Oct 17, 2008, at 11:30 AM, JoaoBR wrote: constantly I find data corruption on ZFS volums, ever from rrdtool, this corrupt data happens on SATA disks, never seem on SCSI Presumably your SATA drives are correctly being reported by ZFS as corrupting data, and you should do something like re

Re: constant zfs data corruption

2008-10-17 Thread Xin LI
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 JoaoBR wrote: > Hi > > constantly I find data corruption on ZFS volums, ever from rrdtool, this > corrupt data happens on SATA disks, never seem on SCSI > > scrub is not able to repair, when comes to touch this files machines reboots, > deleting a

constant zfs data corruption

2008-10-17 Thread JoaoBR
Hi constantly I find data corruption on ZFS volums, ever from rrdtool, this corrupt data happens on SATA disks, never seem on SCSI scrub is not able to repair, when comes to touch this files machines reboots, deleting and restorin also is not possíble, seems I need to delete the files, umoun